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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:49 pm

evnow wrote:
johnr wrote:I don't think most Volt buyers would benefit from a 240V EVSE - the battery pack is smaller so it charges fast enough on 120V, which is more convenient anyway.


True - but if you travel the same distance in Leaf or Volt - and that is < 40 miles - both will take the same time to recharge.


Not really. I suspect that the Leaf will draw less kWh to go 40 miles than the Volt. But that is just a hunch.
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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:13 am

palmermd wrote:
evnow wrote:
johnr wrote:I don't think most Volt buyers would benefit from a 240V EVSE - the battery pack is smaller so it charges fast enough on 120V, which is more convenient anyway.

True - but if you travel the same distance in Leaf or Volt - and that is < 40 miles - both will take the same time to recharge.

Not really. I suspect that the Leaf will draw less kWh to go 40 miles than the Volt. But that is just a hunch.

GM seems quite adamant that they only use 8kWh of their battery, and that it does go 40 miles on that amount. 40 * 2.5 = 100. 8 * 2.5 = 20. Is your hunch telling you that the Leaf goes 100 miles on less than 20kWh?
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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:26 am

planet4ever wrote:GM seems quite adamant that they only use 8kWh of their battery, and that it does go 40 miles on that amount. 40 * 2.5 = 100. 8 * 2.5 = 20. Is your hunch telling you that the Leaf goes 100 miles on less than 20kWh?

Nissan has already said the car will go up to 135 miles on the 20kWh if you drive at a steady speed. So far gm has not released any figures for the volt. Like I said it's just a hunch. Quite different from a fact.
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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:20 am

palmermd wrote:Nissan has already said the car will go up to 135 miles on the 20kWh if you drive at a steady speed. So far gm has not released any figures for the volt. Like I said it's just a hunch. Quite different from a fact.


There will be some differences - but nothing major. They will consume similar amounts per mile driven.
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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:34 am

palmermd wrote:Not really. I suspect that the Leaf will draw less kWh to go 40 miles than the Volt. But that is just a hunch.

Why? - I expect both to be just about identical...
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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:45 am

evnow wrote:
johnr wrote:I don't think most Volt buyers would benefit from a 240V EVSE - the battery pack is smaller so it charges fast enough on 120V, which is more convenient anyway.


True - but if you travel the same distance in Leaf or Volt - and that is < 40 miles - both will take the same time to recharge.


Not necessarily - the Volt's weight must be significantly higher ... sporting both a battery pack, as well as the ICE and tranny and toxic explosive fuel. It's drag is greater too, making for a poorer use if total Kwh energy.

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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:12 am

hill wrote:Not necessarily - the Volt's weight must be significantly higher ... sporting both a battery pack, as well as the ICE and tranny and toxic explosive fuel. It's drag is greater too, making for a poorer use if total Kwh energy.


Volt's CD is supposed to be lower at .27 vs .29 for Leaf. Don't know about total drag.

Anyway, this is splitting hair - as for as getting stats about home charging is concerned.
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Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:33 pm

I've seen some recent activity on some of the other topics on the Board and wondered once again if I missed an email or two.

Well, I revisited my account on the nissanusa.com website where I submitted my original reservation (4-20-2010) and Charger Survey.
I saw a note below the "reservation complete" page which stated that I was approved for the US Government EV Project free charging dock and installation which is to take place approximately one month before delivery of the vehicle. They indicated that ECOtality would be contacting me in the future.

Is this a generic reply based on the survey I completed? Did anyone else get the same message? I'm a bit confused as to the delivery.

I swear I didn't see the comment when I completed the reservation and charger survey.

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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:41 pm

I've been approved. Check your account status ... :D

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Re: EV Project / Ecotality Free EVSE official thread

Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:46 pm

Lucky, mine says "you may still meet the criteria for the free home charger - see details"

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additional information is still needed to determine if you meet the criteria for a free home charging dock and installation as part of the U.S. government's EV Project. ECOtality will contact you in the next few weeks to review your survey responses and schedule an in-home assessment, if needed. thank you for deciding to be part of the gasoline-free future
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