cwerdna
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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:22 am

gmcjetpilot wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
gmcjetpilot wrote:What about the rebuilt ones that replace the individual modules as required (ones that are less 80%) reported to be less than $3000.
If you could point me to where it says they're available in the US...
Are you being rhetorical or just lazy? Do your own research. Google it. There are used and aftermarket batteries, but forgot where I saw them. This article states Nissan has launched a program this year in Japan, but will extend to other countries.

"torque news"
By Armen Hareyan G+ Mar 27 2018
Nissan's Battery Exchange Program Details and Cost for Old Leaf Owners

Nissan is doing something really big for old Leaf owners exchanging their batteries. For now it starts in Japan, but later will spread. Here are the details and cost of Nissan Leaf's batter exchange program.


Ouch!

I asked:
cwerdna wrote:If you could point me to where it says they're available in the US...

Why don't you be not "lazy" or "rhetorical" and point me to where?

I'm active on this forum and some EV related sites at least 90% of the days of the year, on most days, multiple times/day. If it were available in the US or there was a time frame announced, I'd know about it. I don't particularly find it useful to point to things that aren't available to us in the US as a current possibility.

I don't read Torque News much partly because I and some other folks here (esp. moderators) and some admins of some Leaf FB groups don't like how they disseminate their content, some of which is click bait.

I've never seen any statement that it is available in the US nor that it will spread here. As for spreading anywhere else, I don't recall any of that. It's possible that Torque News's statement is speculation or wishful thinking. For example, in the below, I don't see any mention of availability outside of Japan.
https://insideevs.com/nissan-introduces ... -4r-plant/
https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/rele ... 80326-01-e

The Torque News story you mention has a pointer to https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/180326-04-e which is dead. The copy at https://web.archive.org/web/20180331004 ... 80326-04-e also says nothing about it spreading.

If you have a Nissan press release or some other reputable press outlet (w/confirmation from Nissan corporate) stating that it will spread, esp. to the US, I'm all ears.

See https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... tery-packs and https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... s-in-japan that are dated later than your pointer that has not given us any assurance that it'll be available in the US nor the time frame.

What goldbrick posted is spot on.

Which reputable supplier currently provides aftermarket Leaf batteries in the US? I've heard of none. Used? I can't think of any in that boat either.

From salvage or wrecked Leafs? Sure, you could get those...

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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:56 am

cwerdna wrote:I'm active on this forum and some EV related sites at least 90% of the days of the year, on most days, multiple times/day. If it were available in the US or there was a time frame announced, I'd know about it. I don't particularly find it useful to point to things that aren't available to us in the US as a current possibility.

I don't read Torque News much partly because I and some other folks here (esp. moderators) and some admins of some Leaf FB groups don't like how they disseminate their content, some of which is click bait..... blah blah.
That is my point. You knew the answer ("I would know about it") and instead of saying that, you asked me a question "would you mind telling me...." being snarky, condescending and sarcastic.... You prove by your rant your question was disingenuous.

The Nissan reman batteries ($3000 usd at least 80%) are only in Japan at this time. Yep. Sorry you are so pissed off; forgive me, but your question came off you know all trolling, not interested in an answer, so it pissed me off. I'm over it. Sorry I did not know you knew everything. Have a nice day and all the best.
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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:04 am

^^^
Sigh. I posted a request and instead, you were hostile and hostile again.

I am interested in an answer. Turn around and look at the tone of your replies.
gmcjetpilot wrote:Are you being rhetorical or just lazy? Do your own research. Google it. There are used and aftermarket batteries, but forgot where I saw them. This article states Nissan has launched a program this year in Japan, but will extend to other countries.

And, yet, you haven't pointed to any other reputable sources that corroborate the bolded claim.
gmcjetpilot wrote:What about the rebuilt ones that replace the individual modules as required (ones that are less 80%) reported to be less than $3000.

gmcjetpilot wrote: The Nissan reman batteries ($3000 usd/ at least 80%) are only in Japan at this time.

Neither of us live in Japan.

I do not know everything but as goldbrick said, if Nissan made refurb packs available in the US, it would be all over EV press. It would be mentioned ALL the time as a possibility on the various Leaf FB groups I'm on and here when someone is down 4 bars and past warranty. If there was an announcement as to US time frame, the same things apply.
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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:07 am

cwerdna wrote:^^^
Sigh. I posted a request and instead, you were hostile and hostile again.

I am interested in an answer. Turn around and look at the tone of your replies.

"Neither of us live in Japan." No kidding Captain obvious. :shock: :roll: :lol: Bye...

PS I am keeping the good info for myself... since you are being such an angry fart...

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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:18 pm

gmcjetpilot wrote:
cwerdna wrote:^^^
Sigh. I posted a request and instead, you were hostile and hostile again.

I am interested in an answer. Turn around and look at the tone of your replies.

"Neither of us live in Japan." No kidding Captain obvious. :shock: :roll: :lol: Bye...

PS I am keeping the good info for myself... since you are being such an angry fart...


@cwerdna, the dude doesn't know squat, but he's too small to admit it. Stop feeding the troll.
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Re: Warning: Battery Replacement Cost Increase (now $8500)

Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:27 pm

davewill wrote:@cwerdna, the dude doesn't know squat, but he's too small to admit it. Stop feeding the troll.

FWIW, he's been added to my foes list.

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