Snlj wrote:Hi Everyone,
I just picked up a 2013 SL with a 2G radio. Short of paying to upgrade the hardware, is there any way to use Leaf Manager or any other remote control capability? Or is everything ultimately routing through Carwings, which recognizes that I have outdated hardware and won't initialize until I upgrade, which I'm hesitant to do. Has anyone paid to do this and found it worthwhile?
LEAF manager ultimately uses Carwings. Without the 3G radio your car simply cannot communicate to the outside world. The only (very limited) thing you can do is set timers to turn on HVAC, start/stop charging, etc.
I did end up paying for the 3G upgrade because I used several features multiple times per day. I used pre-heat/pre-cool when leaving work every day. I verified SOC at least once per day. And getting a text when charging stopped on my LEAF, as rare as that may have been, is still peace of mind for me.
However, one month after getting the upgrade there was an incredible rebate for a new LEAF ($10K) and I couldn't say no to that. So yeah, in my case it wasn't worth it
(well, it did help me to negotiate another $250 in my trade-in).
For some actually practical advice though: I will say that people are pretty polarized whether they use the telematics or not. There are some that believe it is pretty critical and inherently necessary while owning an EV. Others never use it (and certainly those with S trim levels do not!) The standard Nissan app is very basic and a pain to use (hence one of the reasons LEAF manager exists). Even those that do take advantage of the telematics have a love/hate relationship with it. And it is slow. Commands and status requests take far longer than you think they should in 2017, but they don't take forever (usually between 30-60 seconds--another benefit of LEAF manager--with the widget buttons you can just hit a button and then go do something else).
I would say that if you live in a moderate climate and don't have a great need for pre-heat/cooling your car, and you don't foresee having to check your SOC much (the reason I did was because I was trying to be a good EV neighbor at work and unplugging when I had enough charge, not necessarily hours after the car was full), then you should probably hold off on getting the telematics upgrade. But if either of those things are not your case, then I would say that you should take advantage of the fact that you probably got a wonderful deal on the 2013 and an extra $100 is probably going to make your car complete.