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The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:15 pm

Well guys, it's time for some new shoes as these Stock Ecopia tires are worn, especially around the edges, could be that the Original owner had them under inflated.

I've looked all over the Internet, read many reviews on Tire Rack and elsewhere that my head is spinning. The List below came from Consumer Report best test LRR tires.

Like to hear from you guys which route you went with and did you notice an increase or decrease in MPGe.

Please List:
1. Tire Name
2. +/- MPGe
3. Any Comments on your selection.

All-season (T speed rated)
Michelin Energy Saver A/S
Cooper GFE

Performance all-season (H speed rated)
Michelin Primacy MXV4
Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422

Performance all-season (V speed rated)
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422

*Nokian enTyre not listed but are pioneers in LRR.
I would like to go with Nokians EnTyres but these are special order.


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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:10 pm

FYI, there are already a bizzion tire threads on here where this has been discussed in to the ground...
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:15 pm

Every time I have read about changing the tires, the new tires decrease the range of the car by varying amounts.

Will any of these tires actually increase range ?
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:27 pm

KJD wrote:Every time I have read about changing the tires, the new tires decrease the range of the car by varying amounts.

Will any of these tires actually increase range ?


You might get lucky and have the same range with another LRR tire, but I wouldn't expect more.
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:31 pm

TomT wrote:FYI, there are already a bizzion tire threads on here where this has been discussed in to the ground...


Thanks!


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Last edited by Wennfred on Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:36 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
KJD wrote:Every time I have read about changing the tires, the new tires decrease the range of the car by varying amounts.

Will any of these tires actually increase range ?


You might get lucky and have the same range with another LRR tire, but I wouldn't expect more.


Lots of reviews on these tires but most reviews and esp consumer reports have been paid off to fix their reviews, can't trust these companies any more. Besides hardly any good reviews from Leaf owners out there,

I might just go with the Nokians since they wrote the book on LRR tires years ago.
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"Eco Mode" only. 06/24/15 - 9 CB @ 43,000mi 100% charge: GIDS=199, S=95.37, C=46.76, H=50.51 Lost 1st CB at 26300, 2nd CB 34274 3rd CB 43000 miles

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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:25 pm

Perhaps pertinent to range and new tires - have folks who have purchased new tires had their odometers recalibrated? If so, how?

For example, the stock Ecopias (on a 2011) are supposedly 837 revolutions per mile. I'm hoping to get a set of the Michelin Energy Saver A/S P205/60R16 91V SL Green X as replacements, assuming my local Discount Tire can order those (they don't show on their website, but do show on tirerack.com).

If my thinking is right, that tire change with no odometer modification would result in underreporting of distance/speed (and therefore efficiency), no?

I'm not too concerned, mainly curious.

I'm definitely interested in whether anyone has procured the Energy Saver in P205/60R16 from Discount specifically...?
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:20 pm

I replaced the original tires at 93K miles with Michelin MXM4. I drove with them for 500 miles and exchanged them for the Ecopia tires under the Costco Customer Satisfaction Program.

As soon as I put the Michelins on, I could feel the car trying to overcome the tires.

My experience with both: Same route - 49.4 miles. With Michelins I started with 182 GIDS. At the end, I had 13. With the new Ecopias I started with 183 GIDS and ended with 30. Similar driving conditions for both with less truck following on the Ecopia tires.

Pressures up at 40 on both types.
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:34 pm

TaylorSFGuy wrote:I replaced the original tires at 93K miles with Michelin MXM4. I drove with them for 500 miles and exchanged them for the Ecopia tires under the Costco Customer Satisfaction Program.

The MXM4s take at least 1000 miles to break in, probably longer with your driving.
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Re: The New Tire Replacement Post

Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:00 pm

Some of the replacement Ecopias seem better than the OEM models. OEM tires are usually cheap downgrades like the energy saver AS.

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