cwerdna
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Re: Would an 11 bar 2012 Leaf do 35 miles in Minnesota winter?

Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:38 pm

I haven't read all the responses but even if it did, the '11 and '12 Leafs have crappy batteries, which degrade much more quickly than build date 4/2013+ thru model year '14. Even better are the '15 lizard batteries.

So... with degradation, the journey's going to get tougher and tougher. If this is the edge of range on an 11 bar car (not idea if it is), in maybe 2-3 years, it could become really difficult w/o some charging along the way or at the destination.

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Re: Would an 11 bar 2012 Leaf do 35 miles in Minnesota winter?

Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:49 pm

cwerdna wrote:I haven't read all the responses but even if it did, the '11 and '12 Leafs have crappy batteries, which degrade much more quickly than build date 4/2013+ thru model year '14. Even better are the '15 lizard batteries.

So... with degradation, the journey's going to get tougher and tougher. If this is the edge of range on an 11 bar car (not idea if it is), in maybe 2-3 years, it could become really difficult w/o some charging along the way or at the destination.


Unless your car has had a battery replacement with the '15 Lizard battery which hasn't proven to be much better.
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*2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 mi) Now 35,485 mi

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Re: Would an 11 bar 2012 Leaf do 35 miles in Minnesota winter?

Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:16 am

Lizard batteries seem to do fine in climates that aren't exceptionally Hot.
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Re: Would an 11 bar 2012 Leaf do 35 miles in Minnesota winter?

Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:11 pm

I have the 2017 S. I got about 85 miles max range at the coldest days this winter. Rough guess is a 24kw leaf with all bars would get 80% of that (68 miles), and by the time it is down 4 bars, only half of that (34 miles).
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Re: Would an 11 bar 2012 Leaf do 35 miles in Minnesota winter?

Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:41 pm

I have the 2017 S. I got about 85 miles max range at the coldest days this winter. Rough guess is a 24kw leaf with all bars would get 80% of that (68 miles), and by the time it is down 4 bars, only half of that (34 miles).


That's a bit optimistic. I never got more than maybe 55 miles in frigid weather when my car was new. I think that 25 miles with 8 bars in frigid is a safer estimate.
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