Brenthasty
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Mon May 23, 2016 10:57 pm

Our stock front driver tires made 35,000 miles

TaylorSFGuy
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Tue May 24, 2016 12:03 am

Let's see if I can respond to some of the questions and comments:

Yes, one set of tires at 93,000 miles
No brake parts replaced/resurfaced etc.
Battery capacity loss - I have a suspicion that starting to use QC started me down the slope.

I have tried very hard to avoid the QCs with the 2014. I have over 30,000 miles and only 26 QC sessions. Eventually the 2011 started needing multiple charges a day and I could see GID counts change - not steady but still a drop. For some time, we didn't have GID meters on phone apps. I did borrow a wired meter from Fairwood Red a couple of times.

When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge. One afternoon I let it sit until the evening and had my Wife come get me - after dinner I came back and charged.

I'm taking the car in for a once over before I give it to my Mom. I'll update with any findings on the regeneration loss and grab/release brakes.

From other posts, it looks like I am not the first LEAF to 150,000 miles - a taxi in UK is about a week earlier. I should say I am the first non commercial owner/driver to 150,000 miles.

Thanks for all your kind comments - please share with other LEAF owners and EV want to be owners. Steve
Mileage as of May 19, 2016 is 150,000 - 147 GID at 100%

Ordered Jan. 21, 2011 Delivered May 13, 2011

Number of months with highest mileage on Carwings - 23

First LEAF to 100,000 Miles in USA if not worldwide
First non commercial LEAF to 150,000 Miles

NissanLeafCamper
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Tue May 24, 2016 7:24 pm

That is pretty amazing that the tires lasted so long also no brake change for so many miles :) I wonder if the check up will mention anything about them. Please keep us updated on the finding for the regen!

for the record you still feel the magnetics breaks going down hill just nothing goes in the battery? Do you still see green dots?

DarthPuppy
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Tue May 24, 2016 10:25 pm

Wow, 93k on tires is pretty good. I kind of expected the brakes to still be original as we also have a hybrid at 130k with original brakes. I've read that hybrids and EVs with regenerative braking have very long lasting brakes.

And I must say you've gone above and beyond to get that mileage out of the car. And apparently have a very understanding wife too.

I don't think a commercial vehicle such as a taxi should count for the purpose of high mileage awards, at least not for being first to clear a threshold. A commercial vehicle can be used 24/7 as the company could assign it out to multiple shifts of drivers. So I think you have a valid claim. And Nissan would do well to recognize you for it and get you into a commercial or at least print ad or newsletter/website article.
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cwerdna
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Tue May 24, 2016 11:51 pm

DarthPuppy wrote:I don't think a commercial vehicle such as a taxi should count for the purpose of high mileage awards, at least not for being first to clear a threshold. A commercial vehicle can be used 24/7 as the company could assign it out to multiple shifts of drivers. So I think you have a valid claim. And Nissan would do well to recognize you for it and get you into a commercial or at least print ad or newsletter/website article.

The OP was already featured in a bunch of things for breaking the 100K mark:
http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... ting-miles
http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... tric-miles
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/News/2013/12/WA ... cMiles.htm

I'm guessing the amazing life on the tires is due to a commute where he's able to do steady speeds with not much turning, stopping and accelerating. I've also heard amazing tire life numbers from (IIRC) 2 fas 4 u on Priuschat. His Priuses are listed at http://prius.wikia.com/wiki/Lifespan/Operating_costs. 2 fas 4 u's 2014 Prius v wagon is past 191K miles. His 09 Prius was traded in for a '12 Prius v wagon when it hit 465K miles.

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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Wed May 25, 2016 6:36 am

TaylorSFGuy wrote:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.


I only rarely see 6 TB, usually 5 in summer and 4 in winter. While I'm in a bit cooler climate, that doesn't explain it. Is getting 7 and 8 TBs related to quick charging? Do you see 7 or 8 TBs now that you are mostly avoiding daily quick charging?
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Wed May 25, 2016 10:51 am

WetEV wrote:
TaylorSFGuy wrote:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.


I only rarely see 6 TB, usually 5 in summer and 4 in winter. While I'm in a bit cooler climate, that doesn't explain it. Is getting 7 and 8 TBs related to quick charging? Do you see 7 or 8 TBs now that you are mostly avoiding daily quick charging?


Which goes back to why I said his bar losses were related to heat.

I'm way further south, see higher average temperatures but I don't charge the car if the pack gets above 80F which means about 75F outside when I start the charge in the worst case. I don't even watch the temp bars because I use leafspy.

Temp Bar 8 is 97F to 120F
Temp Bar 7 is 73F to 117F
Temp Bar 6 is 50F to 100F
Temp Bar 5 is 27F to 81F

So yeah, If I saw temp bar 6 or higher I wouldn't charge unless I was sure to get a free battery from Nissan. Since I don't expect to get one I'm not charging when the pack is hot.
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DarthPuppy
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Wed May 25, 2016 2:23 pm

cwerdna wrote:The OP was already featured in a bunch of things for breaking the 100K mark:


Ah very good. I hadn't seen the articles on Nissan's website. Glad to see the recognition.
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Reddy
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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Wed May 25, 2016 5:20 pm

WetEV wrote:
TaylorSFGuy wrote:When the temperature bars rarely would go to 8 on the 2011, I didn't charge.


I only rarely see 6 TB, usually 5 in summer and 4 in winter. While I'm in a bit cooler climate, that doesn't explain it. Is getting 7 and 8 TBs related to quick charging? Do you see 7 or 8 TBs now that you are mostly avoiding daily quick charging?
I'm going to make a guess here, but since his commute was 65 mi each way, the car was either driving (discharging at about 20 KW on the freeway) or charging (L2 at 3.8 KW for 8 hrs at work and 8 hrs while sleeping). Even though the vehicle was in a nice cool, wet PNW, the battery was constantly warmer than ambient due to constant charge/discharge. How much so? I don't know, but LeafSpy has always shown my battery at least 5-10 F higher when charging than when not charging overnight (some nights I charge, some I don't). Also, my driving pattern is all city 20-40 mph and low mileage 5-10 mi/d. I'll hazard a guess that Steve's battery was constantly 10-20 F higher than ambient, maybe even more. When you add Steve's full charge/discharge cycles (almost always 0 to 100% which is hardest on LiON batteries), and later addition of 2x daily DCQC's, I'd say he fully utilized a 1st gen battery and vehicle that was probably designed for less than 75,000 mi. If I recall correctly, Nissan's CEO once stated that his engineers told him the design wasn't ready for release, but the marketing people forced it (perhaps pushed by GM's Volt release in 2010). Also, the "leading environmentally-friendly affordable family" (LEAF) car is really for in-town use (motor was optimized to 35 mph).

So, OT, Steve, congratulations on a job well-done! You've done more than your part. For those who think he should have just bought a 50 mpg diesel, remember that WA's electricity is nearly 100% hydro and we send more than half of it to CA. Steve is walking the walk, saving tons of CO2 emissions, and Taylor Shellfish is in this for the long haul. Spend some time to read more about how CO2 is acidifying the oceans, and causing massive problems for Taylor and other shellfish companies:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/08/01/157733954/how-climate-change-is-changing-the-oyster-business
http://thestorygroup.org/oyster-farmers-and-ocean-acidification/
http://globaloceanhealth.org/tag/taylor-shellfish/
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/10/28/3713061/washington-oregon-ocean-acidification/
http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=4768&p=441837&hilit=taylor#p441837
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Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

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Re: 150,000 Miles on my original battery 2011

Tue May 31, 2016 9:28 pm

Really looking forward to the response after the look over to the leaf at the nissan shop :)

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