ncscenic
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Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:55 pm

As our Leaf quickly approaches bar 8 out of warranty, we're interested in replacing our battery in our 2011 Leaf in the next few months and thought we would look into Nissan's Battery Replacement Program as to be prepared as it were.

After a few phone calls to Nissan's EV Customer Service Group and a visit with our service manager at the local dealership we found out that Nissan will finance the battery replacement through NMAC, but the maximum allocation is $5,500. Our dealership estimated the total cost at $6,400 or so; hence, we're looking at a "down payment" of 900 or so and some change and then payments of roughly $100 for 60 months.

We like the car a lot and find it to be a game changer in the automotive world, however, why would we lay out a grand or so when we could easily parley that same "down payment" into a new LEAF? I get that we'll have a "new car" in many respects after the battery is replaced, however, with the BOLT coming out and the new VOLT just sort of wonder what Nissan was thinking. The financing does not cover the total cost of replacement, so I don't see a lot of folks doing this. Seems to me, though, that this is precisely what the car is about in many ways, recycling, re using, etc

The other question is-- at one hundred dollars a month for 60 months, do we really want to be driving a car around for 10 years?

Darryl
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:59 pm

The first questions I would ask myself is "Do I really need a new battery? Or can I continue to use the car with less range between charges." As the battery technology is greatly changing and who knows what next year my offer. A third party battery? More KWh battery? Better heat resistance?
2012 Nissan Leaf SL w 27500 miles. Lost two bars.

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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:00 pm

It is questionable as to whether worth it to plunk down that type of $ given my comments at viewtopic.php?p=435921#p435921 and beyond. And, there's the wholesale value of '11 Leafs at auctions: viewtopic.php?p=462635#p462635.

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mihird
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:28 pm

Darryl wrote:The first questions I would ask myself is "Do I really need a new battery? Or can I continue to use the car with less range between charges." As the battery technology is greatly changing and who knows what next year my offer. A third party battery? More KWh battery? Better heat resistance?


After market battery packs for these cars are not going to be in the market for quite some time....in fact they may never come out...considering there wouldn't be a big market for them...since we are only talking 100,000 total leafs sold so far in the US..

As for the OP's question....I would suggest to ask yourself..what are your alternatives?

1. Is the current range simply unlivable?
2. If so, what would you drive as a replacement car (fuel/maintenance costs)
3. How many miles of driving you do in a month?
4. What is the current residual value in this car?
5. What would be the cost to upgrade to a new Leaf?
6. How much money in fuel/maintenance you would have saved so far?
7. Factor in differential cost of car insurance if you were to upgrade to a newer leaf..

After you put all these numbers down, you need to do a self evaluation whether buying 60 more months at $100/month is the best option in your situation or not?

In many situations (in my case, I need 18,000 commute miles/year and 100 miles of range/charge/day) the $100/month for a replacement battery is not a bad deal at all..as against getting into a brand new replacement car just to avoid the battery replacement cost on the older car.
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:32 am

Don't forget that to include the yearly cost for registration and insurance on a 2011 vs a 2016. That is a significant difference, at least in California.
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Firetruck41
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:20 am

If you were to buy a small car that gets 30 mpg, you would be paying about 80/mo to go 1000 mi. Add in the fact that you have more maintenance costs with a conventional car, and you are probably equal or paying less, to drive the Leaf with a new battery. If you factor in the cost of a new car, obviously, you are better off with the Leaf. However, most people do not just make a decision based on practical realities, or no one would ever buy a new car. Ultimately, it is up to you to decide what you are willing to pay to keep a lower cost option on the road, and if you are willing to drive an "older" car. Also, as others mentioned, just because you are at 8 bars doesn't mean the battery needs replaced, if it still fulfills your needs.
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ncscenic
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:14 pm

All good comments. Thanks for the help.

I guess, I was initially a bit surprised that Nissan's financing of the battery only covers that cost, not the installation, tax or new parts for the '11 and '12 Leaf.

Phatcat73
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:39 pm

Not worth it as you can almost purchase a used leaf for the cost of an installed battery pack.
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knightmb
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:25 pm

ncscenic wrote:After a few phone calls to Nissan's EV Customer Service Group and a visit with our service manager at the local dealership we found out that Nissan will finance the battery replacement through NMAC, but the maximum allocation is $5,500. Our dealership estimated the total cost at $6,400 or so; hence, we're looking at a "down payment" of 900 or so and some change and then payments of roughly $100 for 60 months.


This part sticks out for the price of a new pack, I thought customers were suppose to get a $1,000 credit for the exchange of the old battery to take that cost down to the $5500 range? So it looks like the Dealership is pocketing the $1,000 credit. Does it really cost $1,000 for the dealership to drop the old battery, lift the new battery up and connect it? It's not like the car has to be taken apart with special tools?

knightmb
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Re: Nissan Battery Replacement Program, Cost

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:34 pm

ncscenic wrote:We like the car a lot and find it to be a game changer in the automotive world, however, why would we lay out a grand or so when we could easily parley that same "down payment" into a new LEAF? I get that we'll have a "new car" in many respects after the battery is replaced, however, with the BOLT coming out and the new VOLT just sort of wonder what Nissan was thinking. The financing does not cover the total cost of replacement, so I don't see a lot of folks doing this. Seems to me, though, that this is precisely what the car is about in many ways, recycling, re using, etc

The other question is-- at one hundred dollars a month for 60 months, do we really want to be driving a car around for 10 years?

Second part, wanted to make this reply separate. If the vehicle has been working fine all these years, it's actually amazing to me (I work on cars a lot) that you are only going to worry about a battery replacement. By 6 years, even new cars have gone through a lot of maintenance that will nickel and dime you to death. I know people that spend more than $6k on maintenance on brand new vehicles after 6 years and still worry about "what is going to need replacement next" all the time as their vehicle ages.

I see the glass as half-full on this one. If you get the new battery pack, you get the latest battery technology, better heat tolerance, more top end capacity, etc. It will be like getting another new vehicle but it's one that you already know how to use with all it's quirks. You won't worry about engine parts going out, belts and pumps and other mechanical parts that wear out, O2 sensors going bad, bad gas at the pump destroying your engine, etc. When you work on your own cars all the time instead of taking them to a shop, you notice how little to nothing needs to be done for the Leaf.

My advice, if the vehicle works for you and the only thing wrong is an old battery, upgrade to the latest technology and enjoy it again for another 6 years. :D

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