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IssacZachary
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Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:10 pm

rmay635703 wrote:If the refinery makes 10x more emissions per gallon than your car are you really creating more pollution by saving fuel?

...

Further the only way to reduce the overall pollution from an ICEV is to reduce petroleum use.
The refinery always puts out an order of magnitude more pollution than the cars burning the stuff.

Do you think that if I just use used and strained veggie oil in my ol' diesel I'd be better off than buying diesel fuel at the fueling station? Maybe I could start a doughnut shop in order to fuel my long distance trips. Suggestions??? But maybe I need to first start a different thread though since I don't think selling doughnuts is going to affect the value of my Leaf, unless I use my Leaf as a doughnut delivery car. Mmm...
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dhanson865
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Leaf Number: 16156
Location: Tennessee

Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:28 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
You get 62.5 mpg in your Prius???


Absent serious hypermiling, that's plug-in Prius territory. I'm not sure about the Gen II, but the Gen III Prius gets roughly 49-55MPG. My housemate's lifetime average for her PIP is about 72MPG, IIRC. That's a bit higher than typical, because she can run all in-town errands in EV mode.


Not even hypermiling. I did run high tire pressure, Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires, and use pure 100% gas (no ethanol) but I drove with traffic, my normal commute to work and home. Top speed of about 70 mph on a downhill, slower on uphills, slower on back roads. But I only drove what I had to do to get to work and home.

https://priuschat.com/threads/top-20-mpg.144213/

GenIII Top 10
1. bwilson4web - 91.8 mpg (1000.8 miles)
2. Ferls80 - 81.1 mpg (750.0 miles)
3. Mark57 - 79.3 mpg (805.2 miles)
4. markabele - 79.1 mpg (818.7 miles)
5. Kore971 - 78.0 mpg (830.9 miles)
6. kalome - 77.3 mpg (703.6 miles)
7. nfujii - 76.0 mpg (550.9 miles)
8. kdkuhns3 - 75.1 mpg (703.1 miles)
9. MattPersman - 75.0 mpg (553.8 miles)
10. mozdzen - 73.5 mpg (701.9 miles)

Prius c Top 10
1. ufourya - 99.9 mpg (501.1 miles)
2. vincent1449p - 90.7 mpg (871.8 miles)
3. skayaks - 83.0 mpg (583.4 miles)
4. CHACHYONTOP - 81.1 mpg (607.9 miles)
5. xraydoug - 79.7 mpg (700.6 miles)
6. hcpc - 73.3 mpg (548.9 miles)
7. Optical Illusions - 69.4 mpg (582.1 miles)

GenII Top 10
1. bwilson4web - 73.8 mpg (GenI, 507 miles)
2. Tony Schaefer - 72.2 mpg (662 miles)
3. retired4999 - 71.3 mpg (626 miles)
4. Agent J - 70.2 mpg (808 miles)
5. roadpup - 67.5 mpg (587 miles)
6. jaquimo - 65.3 mpg (508 miles)
7. dhanson865 - 63.3 mpg (504 miles)
8. miscrms - 60.1 mpg (523 miles)
9. sagebrush - 59.5 mpg (633 miles)
10. Corwyn - 58.7 mpg (655 miles)
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:46 am

I suppose that the people on that list don't hypermile either? Remarkable. ;-)
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hyperionmark
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Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:12 am

LeftieBiker wrote:I suppose that the people on that list don't hypermile either? Remarkable. ;-)

It's really not that hard at all to have a basic Prius get into the 60+ mpg range. Keep in mind that driving with cruise control on at 60 mph should result in fuel economy of around 60 mpg, and closer to 70 mpg at 50 mph.

sparky
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Location: SoCal

Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:25 pm

Uh, guys. Check thread topic please. ^

rmay635703
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Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:23 am

sparky wrote:Uh, guys. Check thread topic please. ^

Since 2012 used leaf values track a value pattern of
Lowest in January through about March, then increasing the rest of the year to only fall again.

There is no real news unless the increase continues through December into January otherwise it's not really an increase just seasonal variation which is meaningless

ENIAC
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Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:56 pm

Here's what CarGurus are showing for used LEAF retail pricing over the last 30 days and 90 days.

Year Avg Price Last 30 Days Last 90 Days
2011 $7,277 -1.54% - 3.28%
2012 $8,590 +2.77% -+3.57%
2013 $9,829 +4.40% -+11.44%
2014 $11,280 +1.90% -+14.17%
2015 $12,462 -1.77% -+12.41%
2016 $18,034 -0.73% -+6.61%

Pricing is likely skewed by the number of vehicles coming off of lease at certain times of the year. Also, when I looked into the data the value play is the 2014 LEAF S. If that trim suits you, many can still be had for $8,000 - $8,500 with reasonable mileage. That's a whole lotta car for that price.
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Reddy
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Location: Pasco, WA

Re: Used Leaf Values rising?

Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:24 pm

ENIAC wrote:Here's what CarGurus are showing for used LEAF retail pricing over the last 30 days and 90 days.

Year Avg Price Last 30 Days Last 90 Days
2011 $7,277 -1.54% - 3.28%
2012 $8,590 +2.77% -+3.57%
2013 $9,829 +4.40% -+11.44%
2014 $11,280 +1.90% -+14.17%
2015 $12,462 -1.77% -+12.41%
2016 $18,034 -0.73% -+6.61%

Pricing is likely skewed by the number of vehicles coming off of lease at certain times of the year. Also, when I looked into the data the value play is the 2014 LEAF S. If that trim suits you, many can still be had for $8,000 - $8,500 with reasonable mileage. That's a whole lotta car for that price.
Interesting. Just roughly speaking, it appears that a Leaf loses $1300/yr (except between '15 & '16 which is $5600). So as long as you're saving $1300 in gas, it's a wash. I guess I'll keep driving my 2011 to zero, only 5 years to go. :( :oops: :cry:
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