RonDawg
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 3:42 pm

DanCar wrote:Which dealer?


Using the OP's statement that the dealership is in Oakland, CA and Nissan's own dealer finder, there is only one dealer within the Oakland city limits, and that's Autocom Nissan: http://www.autocomnissanofoakland.com/

However, Nissan of San Leandro (also an Autocom dealership) is a possibility, as their auto row is very close to the Oakland border.
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tattoogunman
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 3:53 pm

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
tattoogunman wrote:Dealer integrity notwithstanding, this is one of the main reasons why I have had significant reservations going EV. Everyone talks about the cost savings and all of that with these cars. However, if you are someone who plans on keeping these things indefinitely, you can begin to see the long term costs associated with them. Now this isn't to say that an ICE car cannot generate high repair costs either, so don't get me wrong. However, at least with an ICE car you can take it to pretty much any shop to get work done. How many independent shops are going to want to mess with an EV? Especially if they do not have the software, hardware, tools, and knowledge to work on them? In either case, eleven grand seems awfully high. I worked in a VW dealership briefly and I think the only time we ever gave someone an estimate that high was when they brought in an 80's era Cabrio that had been sitting in a field that the owner wanted "fixed up" for his daughter to drive.

Like others have already said, for that kind of money you can buy a relatively newer used one with money left over - at least where I am at anyway. There are always '13, '14, and '15 models for sale for around $10K. Again, the OP may represent an extreme case here, but I think it does highlight the potential long term costs of ownership for an EV. This is what I keep telling Tesla people - imagine what that's going to start costing years down the road once the warranty is up ;)

I agree with everyone else though - I'd sell that car to someone for a few grand and pick up a newer one (assuming they wanted another Leaf).


Not saying we're there now, but there are independent EV repair shops opening up. They're currently few and far between (there's 2 within 30 miles of me), but they'll come up, AND they only need to service the powertrain. Everything else about the car can be serviced by your regular mechanic - I took my 2013 leaf to my regular mechanic to service the AC when it suffered a leak.


Totally agree and I think they are the smart ones. This tech, assuming it becomes the norm, is going to require the entire automotive industry to adapt or die.

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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 4:11 pm

BrockWI wrote:Totally out there, but I have put a portable 5 gallon plastic water tote in the back seat between the kids filled with 120F water. The kids really liked it and it was amazing how much heat it added to the car when it sat outside (at 0F) for an hour and then we got back in again.

Interesting idea. Let's say that you want your car cabin at 60F during cold weather, then if your water starts at 120F the water changes temperature by 60F. Water weighs 8.34 pounds/gallon, so 5 gallons is 41.7 pounds. Then by definition the heat given up is 41.7 * 60 = 2500 BTUs.

2500 BTUs equals 0.73 kWh, so you've saved about 3 miles worth of battery charge. Maybe more like 5 miles, given the overhead of heating the coolant loop and the heat losses that occurs in the coolant loop outside the cabin. Of course, the extra 42 pound of weight has a range penalty.

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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 5:48 pm

It seems a newer model c/w heat pump may be the way to go.
Too bad the Leaf is designed to be such a disposable car. Hope it didn't cost a lot for diagnostics etc.
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 8:02 pm

Don't blame the dealer for recommending module replacements--the service manual outlines replacement of modules and does not provide information to make internal repairs.
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Thu May 18, 2017 9:23 pm

It should be possible to sell an EV with no working heater in SoCal. Adding the hardwired inverter and ceramic heaters as I suggested would also raise the resale value in locales like that, where heat is nice occasionally but not vital.
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Re: 30,000 mile checkup on Leaf: recommended repairs $11053.88

Tue May 23, 2017 9:42 am

brycenesbitt wrote:Ouch.
I went in for a 30,000 mile checkup at the local dealer, and they recommend $11053.88 in repairs. This for a 2011 Leaf that's in fine condition, and never lived in a hot environment. $1500 or so is to replace the heater, $3000 to replace the heater fuse which is hard to change, and $5400 (all plus tax) for a new battery.

The battery sits at 8 bars on the capacity meter, and while the Guess O Meter often says 65-70 miles, the real world range is more like 35 miles.
Anyone else had one this bad?


I quoted your message and emailed Nissan. (you know, the "recently, my friend ......." style.)
A rep called me back today. Basically they have no control over Dealer markup on components after warranty. However, he recommended me to "tell you friend to call up Nissan EV Customer Affair, to see what Nissan can help on out of warranty support for this case". Because, of course, he can not discuss the detail with someone other than the car owner.

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