ElectricMonkey
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:55 am
Delivery Date: 16 Aug 2014

After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:44 pm

:?:

User avatar
mwalsh
Posts: 9474
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:10 am
Delivery Date: 05 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 0213
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:00 pm

:lol:
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 71,000 miles.
2015 pack under warranty 12/30/15.
Tinted windows.
Michelin MXV4 tires.
L1 EVSE upgrade.
FIAMM horns.
Superbright LED lighting.
2013 sun visors.
LED shifter.
Heated seats.
GT-R map lamp lenses.
AV L2 EVSE.

eatsleafsandshoots
Posts: 71
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:23 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Oct 2013
Location: Denver, CO

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:30 pm

-The car payments on a $10k car vs $25k+ car for starters

User avatar
LTLFTcomposite
Posts: 4333
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:06 pm
Delivery Date: 10 Dec 2011
Leaf Number: 5926
Location: Boca Raton FL

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:56 pm

You don't miss the LEAF's luxurious seats?
LTL
White 2012 SV delivered 10 Dec 2011 returned 25 Nov 2014 replaced with stopgap ICE Sentra
[35 months] [35K miles] [9 Bars]
2013 Volt replaced after 36 months/30k miles with ICE Rogue

ElectricMonkey
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:55 am
Delivery Date: 16 Aug 2014

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:30 pm

-The car payments on a $10k car vs $25k+ car for starters


My lease payment is 15% less than when I was leasing the Leaf.

ElectricMonkey
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:55 am
Delivery Date: 16 Aug 2014

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:30 pm

You don't miss the LEAF's luxurious seats?


I can't tell the difference.

ElectricMonkey
Posts: 80
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:55 am
Delivery Date: 16 Aug 2014

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:31 pm

I miss not knowing if I’ll have enough juice to make it home.

I miss knowing the exact location of every charge station in my area.

I miss driving <55mph on an empty freeway after working late, for fear that I won’t make it home if I go any faster.

I miss relying on heated seats to keep me warm in the winter, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the heater.

I miss driving with the windows down on a noisy freeway in the summer, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the AC.

I miss constantly wiping down the inside of my fogged windshield, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the defrost.

I miss that feeling I used to get when I had zero juice left and there was a gas guzzling SUV parked at the only charge station around.

I miss spending my lunch hour eating at whatever charge station I can find.

I miss that feeling I used to get in the pit of my stomach when I was merging onto the freeway before being able to get up to the same speed as traffic.

I miss that feeling I used to get when it rained, and the car would hydroplane at anything over 55mph.

I miss having to rely on a horn that clearly belongs on a child’s tricycle when I’m about to be run off the road by a gas guzzling SUV.

I miss replacing very expensive windshield wipers every 3-6 months.

I miss having to buy a new set of tires after only 20K miles.

I miss having to replace the brake fluid after only 20K miles.

I miss needing a wheel alignment after only 20K miles.

I miss having to buy my own spare tire, jack, and tire iron (which, oh by the way, I was very glad I had at point).

I miss being told by the service department that I’ve been degrading the battery by frequently using the quick charger.

I miss having both remote batteries die on me, even though I only ever used one remote.

I miss the fact that the charge port door locks automatically, and can’t be opened without a key, even though there’s clearly nothing to steal in there.

I missing having to replace the plastic hub caps because I hit a pot hole on tires that sit so close to the rims.

I miss having to trick the charge timer into charging during the best time-of-use hours.

But most of all, I miss having a lease payment that's 15% higher than a car with 3 times the range, and twice the acceleration. That’s what I miss the most.

User avatar
TomT
Posts: 10565
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:09 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 000360
Location: Foothills of Granada Hills, CA
Contact: Website

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:34 pm

I love it! And all are so very true!
Last edited by TomT on Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
59,991 miles/12 bars/289 Gids/68.54 AHr/101% SOH/101.64% Hx 7May15 w/ new Lizard (barely made the warranty).
71,770 miles/12 bars/256 Gids/59.04 AHr/88% SOH/87.92% Hx 3Mar16 at lease return.

Now driving a 2016 Volt Premier. Model 3 reserved.

User avatar
LeafPowerIsIxE
Forum Supporter
Posts: 56
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:46 am
Delivery Date: 28 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 0590
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:15 pm

.... Nissan offering me $5800 trade in allowance on my $35K+ MSRP Leaf after 6 years and 18,000 miles ....

Where is that Tesla Pick-Up Truck?

cwerdna
Gold Member
Posts: 7179
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: After 2 weeks with a Bolt, here's everything I miss about the Leaf

Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:36 pm

I leased a '13 Leaf SV w/both packages for 2 years. I've owned a use '13 SV w/premium only since July 2015 to replace it.
ElectricMonkey wrote:I miss not knowing if I’ll have enough juice to make it home.

I miss knowing the exact location of every charge station in my area.

I miss driving <55mph on an empty freeway after working late, for fear that I won’t make it home if I go any faster.

I miss relying on heated seats to keep me warm in the winter, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the heater.

I miss driving with the windows down on a noisy freeway in the summer, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the AC.

I miss constantly wiping down the inside of my fogged windshield, for fear that I won’t make it home if I run the defrost.

I miss that feeling I used to get when I had zero juice left and there was a gas guzzling SUV parked at the only charge station around.

I miss spending my lunch hour eating at whatever charge station I can find.

I miss that feeling I used to get in the pit of my stomach when I was merging onto the freeway before being able to get up to the same speed as traffic.

I miss that feeling I used to get when it rained, and the car would hydroplane at anything over 55mph.

I've not had these problems. I've only had one very close call once over my 4 years of Leaf driving.
ElectricMonkey wrote:I miss replacing very expensive windshield wipers every 3-6 months.

I miss having to buy a new set of tires after only 20K miles.

I miss having to replace the brake fluid after only 20K miles.

I miss needing a wheel alignment after only 20K miles.

I never replaced the wipers on my 2 year leased Leaf. I bought refills from a Honda dealer for cheap (don't have the receipt handy but I'm pretty sure was under $20 total) around March 2017 as they were streaking badly at that point: viewtopic.php?p=489698#p489698 on the used Leaf I bought in July 2015.

My original leased Leaf had enough tread left on its original tires after past 23K miles to not get dinged by NMAC at lease return. Three tires on my used Leaf with under 24K miles were very worn. I replaced all 4 w/Ecopia EP422 Plus. 23K miles later and all still have plenty of tread.

I never changed the brake fluid on my leased Leaf nor the used one I have now. Been looking to test the fluid since Nissan's recommended intervals seem excessive and silly.

Leased Leaf never needed an alignment. Used Leaf I had an alignment done when I bought the 4 tires. Alignment still looks ok: no uneven wear. I did buy lifetime alignment, so I need to find some time to get it checked and re-adjusted, if needed.
ElectricMonkey wrote:I miss having to buy my own spare tire, jack, and tire iron (which, oh by the way, I was very glad I had at point).

I miss being told by the service department that I’ve been degrading the battery by frequently using the quick charger.

Never experienced the above. The latter point is moot on my current one, as well. It doesn't have a CHAdeMO inlet.
ElectricMonkey wrote:I miss the fact that the charge port door locks automatically, and can’t be opened without a key, even though there’s clearly nothing to steal in there.

It's better than Teslas where their flap closes automatically. It is NOT conducive to plug sharing.
ElectricMonkey wrote:I missing having to replace the plastic hub caps because I hit a pot hole on tires that sit so close to the rims.

I miss having to trick the charge timer into charging during the best time-of-use hours.

Never had plastic hub caps. Never had a problem.

I'm not sure what you mean by trick. Most of my charging is done for free at work. If you want to charge at cheaper rates, you're going to have a set a timer somewhere or manually plug in or unplug at the right times.
Last edited by cwerdna on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:04 am, edited 3 times in total.

'13 blue Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 blue Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Return to “General / Main Owners Forum”