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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:39 pm

Analog speedo? Meh. Analog power/charge gauge? YEAH! I miss that from my i-MiEV! (Along with rear-wheel drive.)
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:30 pm

So much for expecting accurate answers from Orient Express...

It is an electronic one, but it is represented with a traditional needle. There may be a secondary display option in the rest of the screen, and in the short time that I had with the car, I did scroll through all of the options but don't remember if there was a digital option available.


Hopefully he was wrong about the lack of a charge limit option as well.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Let me repeat, no charge limit control. Period. That decision was made by Nissan in 2013 because they found it serves no useful purpose on the newer batteries and complicates the EPA certification process.

And my statement about the speedometer stands, it is a digital speedometer with an analog look to it. It is not a mechanical speedometer. It is no different from all of the other digital speedometers that Nissan and every other automaker use that has a stepper motor to move a pointer and is controlled by a CAN-BUS controller.

Personally, I the ability think to have a 1980's style numeric speedometer would be a nice addition to the dial speedometer. The desire for a driver configurable numeric speedometer option in the multi-function display has been noted and will be passed on to Nissan.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Nissan could have followed GM's lead and offered a "Hilltop Mode" that would have limited charge to 85% or so. That wouldn't have 'affected EPA certification' any more than it did for GM, and would have helped extend the life of a pack with a very uncertain future, given how poorly the 30kwh version is doing. Now Nissan will see Leaf drivers going to the Bolt because Nissan couldn't be bothered to add a hilltop mode or to retain the top display screen. At the very least this means I'll be riding out my $159 lease until I either see a lease offer from Nissan that reflects the diminished value of the car to me, or I'll lease a Bolt and fix the driver's seat myself.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:54 pm

Here is another shot (frame grab) from a video I shot of the display with the Eco-Meter on the left-hand side. I could see a numeric speed readout in the center between the two dials.

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And what the "Bars" for battery capacity looks like now.

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And SOC and time to recharge

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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:07 pm

Thanks for posting more photos. The small digital MPH readout won't be of any use in that location. The speedo won't be as hard to read at night, but everything I wrote will still apply to daytime driving.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:16 pm

What do you think of this LEAF instrument display? This is a 2016 autonomous LEAF prototype I drove (rode in) last year.

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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:27 pm

I don't like that one either. They could have kept Gen 1 /Prius drivers happy one of two ways: retain the upper digital MPH/Temp display, or add a HUD. They could have paid for either by making the electronic parking brake and power seat part of a third "Luxury package" for a bit more money, instead of including them in the "Tech Package." They could have charged an even $2k (or $1999) for the Tech, and $500 for the Luxury.

Here's a question for you: will Pro Park be added as a software upgrade next year, or will 2018 Leaf drivers be 'orphans' who will never get it?
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:54 pm

LeftieBiker wrote: Here's a question for you: will Pro Park be added as a software upgrade next year, or will 2018 Leaf drivers be 'orphans' who will never get it?


I don't know yet, but the pro parking will probably need some additional hardware.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:47 pm

OrientExpress wrote:I have to admit, I'm not sure if I'm LMAO or happy that the biggest controversy for the new LEAF is its speedometer.


Forget about the speedometer controversy - we need to know something really important here...

Do we still have an Eco Tree display?!

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