joeriv
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:45 am

On top of that the 2017 warranties the battery for 8 years, so if it drops below 9 bars you get a new one.
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jparr
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:36 pm

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
jparr wrote:Hi all..I'm considering buying a 2017 Nissan Leaf S with the 6.6kw charger package. (first time poster)

I think this is a great deal! Except, the $34k MSRP for an S trim doesn't quite smell right. I "built" a 2017 S w/ charge package and got an MSRP of $33,335: https://www.nissanusa.com/buildyourniss ... ages/index

You'll probably want to do the same, but with your zip code.

So maybe there's room still to negotiate it down?



I noticed the same thing on the MSRP and when you consider the 2018 Leaf S's coming out with an MSRP of $29,990. No one would expect a higher MSRP for a older model car with fewer features. Thus the dealer is making the discount appear higher than it actually is. It's really a discount of $7k-$9k Again a good discount, over what would have been paid a few years ago, but a little disingenuous and hence why it seems that there should be further room for negotiation.

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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:11 pm

joeriv wrote:On top of that the 2017 warranties the battery for 8 years, so if it drops below 9 bars you get a new one.

Isn't that just the 30KWh battery, which isn't on the S model?
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joeriv
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:06 pm

S is also 30 Kw battery.
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:01 pm

joeriv wrote:S is also 30 Kw battery.

Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not “Kw”.

All ’17 trim levels have 30 kWh battery.

For ’16, SV and SL had 30 kWh batteries but S only had 24 kWh until the '16 “S 30” was quietly introduced (http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... gher-price).

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retrodog
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:27 am

cwerdna wrote:
joeriv wrote:S is also 30 Kw battery.

Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not “Kw”.

All ’17 trim levels have 30 kWh battery.

For ’16, SV and SL had 30 kWh batteries but S only had 24 kWh until the '16 “S 30” was quietly introduced (http://www.greencarreports.com/news/110 ... gher-price).

Yeah, much to quietly. ;)
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webb14leafs
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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:49 am

Everything is negotiable. I was pursuing a similar deal on a new 2016 model that a dealer still had in stock several months ago. I was trying to get them to tack on some dealer discounts on top of the local utility rebate (same as the xcel rebate). I told them I would buy the car immediately if they could. They kept saying they could do so, but would then transfer me to financial people who had no idea what I was talking about. I needed a car, so I ended up buying a used one.

I would go test drive it and show a lot of interest, but say you think you might wait for the 2018. Then walk out the door and wait for them to call you. If that happens you could probably get another $500 or so off. (Ask for $1000, and they'll probably give you $500). If they don't call you back, then that was their rock bottom price. Go back the next day and buy it. It's a good deal if the car is right for you!! I would buy it in a heart beat.

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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:56 pm

Hi jparr,

I just bought my $10k 2017 Leaf model S and I love it. It had the 6.6kW charger upgrade but was an S in just about every other way. I did have to finance the vehicle to get the $5k state rebate taken off the price but I'm planning to just pay it off in 2 months. I don't know how much I'll pay in interest or insurance before then but I don't think it will be significant. I made sure there was no pre-payment penalty on the loan so you might want to check that. Re-sale values are all over the map but most of the ones in the Denver CL are at or above $10k at this time. I assume they will drop once the new models come out but I'm planning to drive mine for a while so re-sale value isn't a big deal for me.

I just got the car in August so I don't know how the cold will affect the range but I do of course still have an ICE car or 2 that I can use when needed.

And yes, everything is negotiable. I have never bought a new car before so the whole dealer thing was new to me but it all just depends on how bad they want to sell their inventory. I've heard rumors that dealers from out of state are sending their Leaf's to CO since they are selling like crazy here, but I have no idea if that is true or not. In any case, I wouldn't wait until the last minute or try to squeeze out the last $100 from the deal. Between Xcel, state of CO and Uncle Sam (assuming you pay > $7500 taxes, which isn't hard) you are getting a new car for 1/3 the list price. And it's not a junker - I really love mine :D

Would 2x the range and TMS be nice? Yes of course but I doubt you'll get one of those for $10k. As is, my model S does everything I hoped it would do: get me to work, get me around town, etc. and it's lots of fun to drive. I have free charging at work although the cost of electricity is very low compared to gas.

Get the car, you won't regret it.

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Re: Is the $17,500 deal negotiable?

Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:25 pm

FYI, I purchased a leaf on a similar deal in February 2017. Here were my numbers on a 2017 Leaf S with 6.6kW charger option:

MSRP 33505
Dealer Discount - 8150
NMAC Financing discount -4000
Dealer Handling 597.50
Government Fee 27.20
Federal Credit -7500
Colorado Tax Credit -5000
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Net 9479.70 (Plus tax)

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