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12v Battery Recommendations

Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:49 pm

Hi Folks,

I know that various theories have been beaten to death here over the 12v battery topic, but I'm now in desperate need of a replacement, and want to know folks who've actually had real-world replacements now for 1+years. I'd like to know the following:
  • Make/Model?
  • Type, i.e. Lead Acid / Lithium?
  • Install Date?
  • Price?
  • Ever needed to jump?

Please try to refrain from hijacking, theories etc. I'm hoping this thread can prove as a useful resource for those needing a replacement without being overburdened with reading. Can't drive my car anymore as the battery won't hold a charge AT ALL. Fluids are not below the core, and I've tried charging it on a dedicated charger to no avail.

Thanks,

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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:17 pm

People have had good luck with Optima Yellow Top batteries, although there was a drop in their quality a few years back. Any AGM or "hybrid" battery that will fit the holder and has the right terminal configuration should work great as long as it isn't undersized. There is also evidence that higher capacity batteries get charged better by the car. You will be told that small lithium batteries are the best choice, but I remain unconvinced because of things like insufficient capacity and BMS failures in them. Even AGM batteries are "Stone Axe" technology, but when's the last time a stone axe broke or wore out early?
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:14 pm

My original plan was to get a Yellow Top Optima from Amazon, when the time came to replace the battery. The price has increased to $163, with a three year warranty (no pro-rated coverage after that). I'm now considering just getting a Standard Replacement from Sam's Club for $100, with the same three year warranty. I'm also looking at options for a higher capacity battery that will fit in the same tray. I'm still using the original battery, which is getting close to five years old.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:06 pm

Size 51R is the correct size and terminal orientation for no-fuss replacement. Larger batteries can be fit depending on how much work you're willing to do to get the cables to reach the terminals.

This one has done well for me:

https://www.pepboys.com/product/details ... quantity=1
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:12 pm

The yellow top Optima (group size 51R) is a deep cycle AGM and has relatively low internal resistance. The low internal resistance allows it to accept high-ampere charging from the DC-DC converter so it recharges quickly. I put one in the 2011 and its capacity seemed like new after over one year. I would have kept it for a spare if the insurance salvage yard would have allowed it. I will purchase one for the 2015 as soon as the original Nissan battery starts to show weakness. I was planning to use a lithium replacement for one of my motorcycles, but the battery store I buy my batteries from said they no longer sell lithium power sport batteries because they had too many premature failures so I will stay with AGM car and motorcycle batteries for now.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:46 am

baustin wrote:My original plan was to get a Yellow Top Optima from Amazon, when the time came to replace the battery. The price has increased to $163, with a three year warranty (no pro-rated coverage after that). I'm now considering just getting a Standard Replacement from Sam's Club for $100, with the same three year warranty. I'm also looking at options for a higher capacity battery that will fit in the same tray. I'm still using the original battery, which is getting close to five years old.


I”be looked on amazon. Can’t find one under $200 shipped.

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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:36 am

Deep cycle (aka not starter batteries) will last longer.
They have a small CCA value (or no value mentioned at all).

Though usually they don't have very high current pole-connectors.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:46 am

Supersleeper wrote:
baustin wrote:My original plan was to get a Yellow Top Optima from Amazon, when the time came to replace the battery. The price has increased to $163, with a three year warranty (no pro-rated coverage after that). I'm now considering just getting a Standard Replacement from Sam's Club for $100, with the same three year warranty. I'm also looking at options for a higher capacity battery that will fit in the same tray. I'm still using the original battery, which is getting close to five years old.


I”be looked on amazon. Can’t find one under $200 shipped.


It looks like it has gone up. The last time I checked it was $163. It makes the Sam's Club option look even better.

The link above for the Bosch AGM at Pep Boys shows it on sale for $132 through October 2nd, with a 4 year replacement warranty. I may just get one of those. They also have the Optima Yellow Top on sale for $143.
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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:18 am

My 12v Lithium replacement thread has been out there for 4 years...and still going.
Never had a dead battery...and prices have come down (more competition).

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Re: 12v Battery Recommendations

Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:24 am

Stanton wrote:My 12v Lithium replacement thread has been out there for 4 years...and still going.
Never had a dead battery...and prices have come down (more competition).

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11999


Yup, but I'm not rich. Hence the reason for a $4,200 used Leaf. Looking for something in the $100-$150 range.

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