erco
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AmazingE ESVE?

Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:26 pm

I caved to the popup ads on this site and ordered the "AmazingE" portable ESVE from Amazon. Its "3.8KW of goodness" is a fine match for the 3.6 kW OBC in my 2014 Leaf S, and my garage already has a 240V 30A dryer outlet, so it seems like a no-brainer for this car anyway. I didn't find any mention of the "AmazingE" here, but there are good reviews at Amazon (duh) and http://300mpg.org/2017/09/02/amazing-e- ... nd-opening . I'm new to all this, but my early take is that all these ESVEs are mostly high-current extension cords, with just enough smarts to confirm the handshake protocol with the OBC. And switching relays and GFI, and UL certification of course.

Funny, Amazon's price was $214 when I bought, but now it's jumped to $303. Did I do that? :) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XSLYDLH/

I got quite a bargain, since Amazon sells just a replacement cable and connector for $180: https://www.amazon.com/Charging-Station ... 01CPST3W0/

I'm pretty handy and was/am tempted to modify my stock Nissan brick per http://www.instructables.com/id/313CONV ... HARGER-TO/ I found this 2014 discussion interesting: http://www.plugincars.com/why-electric- ... 29543.html

I'm wide open to opinions & comments.

http://amazing-e.com/
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:25 pm

Bought one for a friend, good unit, guts made by Clipper Creek, UL listed....Was great price at low $200's....

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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:33 pm

Paid $380 for a Zencar 32A portable EVSE, have no complaints about it. I like that you can order it with whatever amperage settings you prefer and also that it will work on both 120V and 240V supplies. I also have a dryer outlet (NEMA 14-30R) and charge my SV at 5.76 kW rate (240V@24A).

Even if you have only a 3.3 kW OBC, the flexibility of being able to, for instance, charge via a 14-50R (3.3 kW max rate), 14-30R (3.3 kW max rate), TT-30R (2.88 kW), or 5-15R (1.44 kW) is so nice to have.

I have a single adapter cable that let's me use any one of those, more details on that here:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=24302&hilit=adapter&start=10#p500259
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:26 am

I also have the Zencar and really like it, but if cost is very important and UL listing is paramount, then for the low $200s that this AmazingE normally sells for, is a pretty decent deal. At closer to $300 the seller at Amazon is really ripping people off :x I mean to take a EVSE that normally sells ~$200 and now mark it up to >$300.....well do the math!
My main complaint about the AmazingE would be, like the CC that it's designed from, it's ONLY a L2 EVSE, no flexibility like many of the other portable EVSEs to be able to use 120v in a pinch. I guess if your OK with only L2 and the fact that it only charges at 16a(can't manually select amperage so no ability to use on a 240v 15a circuit) then for close to $200 it's a good deal. Otherwise if your OK without your EVSE being UL listed for closer to $200(mid $100s if your OK ordering direct from China) there are other options available :)
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:00 am

jjeff wrote:I also have the Zencar and really like it, but if cost is very important and UL listing is paramount, then for the low $200s that this AmazingE normally sells for, is a pretty decent deal. At closer to $300 the seller at Amazon is really ripping people off :x I mean to take a EVSE that normally sells ~$200 and now mark it up to >$300.....well do the math!


Yep, that's weird. I looked at it for two weeks on Amazon.com, always listed for $214. The day after I ordered, the price jumped up to $303. Either I got lucky or I triggered the increase! Noteworthy that the AmazingE website doesn't direct sell, they steer buyers to Amazon, who has the monopoly AFAIK.

jjeff wrote:My main complaint about the AmazingE would be, like the CC that it's designed from, it's ONLY a L2 EVSE, no flexibility like many of the other portable EVSEs to be able to use 120v in a pinch. I guess if your OK with only L2 and the fact that it only charges at 16a (can't manually select amperage so no ability to use on a 240v 15a circuit) then for close to $200 it's a good deal.


No worries, I plan to use this as my permanent home charger. I emailed the company and they say that's fine, there's an 18 month warranty.
And this is a local (Los Angeles) car only, no need to carry the charger with me, searching for other 220V outlets. Plenty of free L2 chargers all over LA.
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:08 pm

My AmazingE was delivered today. All in all a nice unit, have to move an outlet before I can try it. Surprisingly, its UL-certified cables are slightly smaller diameter OD and more flexible than those on the stock Nissan level 1 (120V) EVSE, which is built like a brick outhouse. In the discussion at http://www.plugincars.com/why-electric- ... 29543.html, it's pointed out that 120V OEM units which get "upgraded" to 240V aren't UL certified. The modder says "they would pass if we went to the expense to certify them". I have no doubts that the external cables are up to the task, based on comparison to the AmazingE.
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:41 pm

Interesting, I just looked on CamelCamelCamel.com(price tracker for Amazon) and it says the AmazingE EVSE has been $369 for the last 6 months :roll: I know thats bull because I remember seeing it close to $200 just a week or so ago and noting it's good price........
https://camelcamelcamel.com/Portable-El ... B06XSLYDLH
Sounds like you ordered yours at just the right time 8-)
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:47 pm

So, erco,... you're the responsible party! I was just about to pull the trigger on one myself yesterday when I saw the price had jumped. I had been eye-balling it for the past week when it was $214.00, and when I went to order it yesterday, bam!... $305.00! Now I'm waiting to see if it comes back down, as I think that's too much money for this EVSE.

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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:34 pm

Leaver wrote:So, erco,... you're the responsible party! I was just about to pull the trigger on one myself yesterday when I saw the price had jumped. I had been eye-balling it for the past week when it was $214.00, and when I went to order it yesterday, bam!... $305.00! Now I'm waiting to see if it comes back down, as I think that's too much money for this EVSE.


Yeah, I suck. Isn't that weird?

I can't find it now, but earlier today I was reading a website which claimed that a 3.6kW OBC might need over 5kW input power from the grid... it made no sense. Still looking through my browser history to find it... but which computer or tablet was I on...?
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Re: AmazingE ESVE?

Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:55 am

LA's Air Quality Management District has an incentive program for home ESVE buyers, they pay $250 (up to $500 for low-income) for home EVSE purchase & installation. I emailed them last week, and just got a reply that they will be adding the AmazingE to the approved list. Wow!

http://www.aqmd.gov/home/programs/commu ... -incentive

Los Angeles has other incentives, including plenty of available L2 chargers around town. Southern California Edison (our power company) pays a $450 rebate to the first THREE owners of any qualifying electric car. I'm the third owner of my 2014 S, so I qualified.

https://www.scecleanfuel.com/

Ten more incentives and this car may just pay for itself!
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