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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:06 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
IssacZachary wrote:I know this may sound schizophrenic, but now I'm looking at used Toyota Avalon Hybrids.


Probably more power (?), worse fuel economy.

Rated 40mpg city and 39mpg highway with it's little 4 cylinder. Mainly more space and more safety.
2k1Toaster wrote:Also doesn't the Avalon have that stupid pass through to the trunk that's good for a pair of skis and nothing else? Rear seats don't even make an effort to fold down. That would be a deal breaker for me. Completely unusable.

Good point!

My theory has always been (although I haven't ever done it yet) is that if I want to haul something bigger than the trunk space, to have a small trailer set up so I can put that on a trailer and not bother with scuffing the interior of the car. A hitch may cost $300 and a small trailer about the same. We normally have friends going with us anyway to the places we go so folding down the seats isn't always an option. There have been several times I've hauled a bunch of (my wife's) stuff in the car to the point I have to move my seat all the way forward (and I'm 6'1") and still can't see out the rear of the vehicle (and I've done this for trips as long as 700 miles).

So if I can get my wife to stop thinking of the car as a pickup truck, that would be fine with me.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:34 pm

Rated 40mpg city and 39mpg highway with it's little 4 cylinder. Mainly more space and more safety.


So less power (or the same) and worse fuel economy. That extra space won't be as usable, as noted.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:54 pm

IssacZachary wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:
IssacZachary wrote:So if I can get my wife to stop thinking of the car as a pickup truck, that would be fine with me.


That's one of my favourite parts of the Prius. It's pikcup truck like space. And in many ways it is superior. Much larger interior space so I could put 10ft lumber in the vehicle and not have it get rained on on the way back or have to have it sticking through a window like every pickup truck. Just like everything I haul from full sized bath-tubs to loads of tiles to literal tons of mulch and more are all comfy cozy inside the car.

Only downside is that it takes about 3 days after hauling that much mulch or dirt to stop smelling like a barn.

I guess Toyota wouldn't sell the Avalon if their wasn't a market for it, but it is one of those vehicles I just don't get, just like its sister car the Lexus ES. I completely understand why an Lexus LS exists. It's a car to be driven in so who cares if the rear seats don't fold down you're getting a full massage as your driver takes you down the road. But the ES/Avalon... Meh.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:44 pm

The gen III Prius is indeed like a small station wagon or, I guess, pickup. I don't think the Prime has the same zero liftover cargo area, though, does it?
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:21 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Rated 40mpg city and 39mpg highway with it's little 4 cylinder. Mainly more space and more safety.


So less power (or the same) and worse fuel economy. That extra space won't be as usable, as noted.

I just got back from a trip to Salt Lake City. As usual, we had so much stuff in the car I had my seat crammed all the way forward there and back. And as usual, I got home with cramps in my back and legs.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:40 pm

IssacZachary wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:
Rated 40mpg city and 39mpg highway with it's little 4 cylinder. Mainly more space and more safety.


So less power (or the same) and worse fuel economy. That extra space won't be as usable, as noted.

I just got back from a trip to Salt Lake City. As usual, we had so much stuff in the car I had my seat crammed all the way forward there and back. And as usual, I got home with cramps in my back and legs.


We also just got back from SLC but we flew. Took 300lbs of stuff in 6 large suitcases for free. :)

Also just last week loaded the Prius with an electrical panel. Doesn't even fit in most pickup trucks. But this was inside out of the torrential rains with tons of room to spare. I know of no other vehicle on the road that isn't a van that could even try to do this

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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:42 pm

We carried a large, heavy 7500 watt dual fuel generator, still in its shipping crate, home in ours. The guys at Home Depot didn't think it would fit, and I had brief reservations, but it did, easily. The Gen III Prius is designed so there is a bottleneck (a small one) at the hatch opening. If you get something passed that, it will fit in the center of the cargo area.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:23 pm

This thread seems to have wandered off topic just a bit ;) Perhaps someone can start a new one...
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:09 pm

alozzy wrote:This thread seems to have wandered off topic just a bit ;) Perhaps someone can start a new one...
Naw, that's not off topic.. The topic title says "so now what" :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:27 pm

alozzy wrote:This thread seems to have wandered off topic just a bit ;) Perhaps someone can start a new one...

So now what?

Anyhow it's all settled and done.

I got a 2013 Toyota Avalon Hybrid. I got 41.0 mpg average over the past 1,500 miles going 75mph with the A/C running non-stop. Although not at as impressive as my 55mpg diesel or a new Prius Prime. it's not too bad. It does specify midgrade fuel (87) octane, so gallon for gallon, it will be just about the same as diesel fuel.

2k1Toaster wrote:I just got back from a trip to Salt Lake City. As usual, we had so much stuff in the car I had my seat crammed all the way forward there and back. And as usual, I got home with cramps in my back and legs.


We also just got back from SLC but we flew. Took 300lbs of stuff in 6 large suitcases for free. :)

Also just last week loaded the Prius with an electrical panel. Doesn't even fit in most pickup trucks. But this was inside out of the torrential rains with tons of room to spare. I know of no other vehicle on the road that isn't a van that could even try to do this[/quote]

That's awesome. Kind of reminds me of a few trips I did in my Leaf, like when I hauled a 10ft ladder once. We did check out a used Prius V and a few other Prii. But the wife and I both liked the Avalon better. The nice thing is I haul mostly people, so it's not all that bad. I do plan on a small, hopefully enclosed, trailer even though Toyota doesn't recommend towing.
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