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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:40 pm

You'd be more likely to succeed in getting a 240 volt outlet installed somewhere, so you could use a portable L-2 station with plug.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:22 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:You'd be more likely to succeed in getting a 240 volt outlet installed somewhere, so you could use a portable L-2 station with plug.

This

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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:26 pm

SageBrush wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:You'd be more likely to succeed in getting a 240 volt outlet installed somewhere, so you could use a portable L-2 station with plug.

This

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I'm curious: how much did you pay for the LEAF ?


And I have a ZenCar 240V 32A EVSE already. And yes, I'm trying to find someone who will let me charge, but so far I haven't.

The Leaf has been my most expensive car yet. It was $12,000 or so, but with the Colorado 24% used EV from-out-of-state tax credit, so a little over $9,000. My payments were $220/month, but I paid quite a bit into it the first year and have it all paid off now, about 1 year 2 months after I purchased it.

Personally I love the Leaf, but the wife and I had to make a decision on a new project/job we're both involved in that had unexpectedly moved 70 miles away from us. If it weren't for that we'd just keep the Leaf and keep loving it.

My first car was a free 1951 Plymounth Cranbrook that I never got running. Next was a $800 1984 Toyota Corolla that I let someone borrow who wrecked it. Then he gave me a 1985 BMW that had severe transmission problems, in which I swapped transmissions and still had severe transmissions problems. After that I got a $1,200 1985 Toyota Camry that also ended up losing the transmission. So I rode my bicycle for a year or two after that. Then got a $500 1984 Toyota Pickup and got married. I traded it even for a 1994 Oldsmobile that the transmission soon went out on. I sold it for $500 and got a $250 1993 Mazda 323 that I drove clear to Puerto Vallarta and back and all over the country. Eventually it ended up with engine problems, which got rebuilt, but still had severe engine problems. So I got a 1996 Buick LeSabre that soon the engine went out on, which I replaced, only for the transmission to go out on. So I went and bought a $3,000 1972 VW Beetle with a rebuilt engine that wasn't rebuild correctly and so destroyed itself after a couple hundred miles. So I bought a 1985 VW Golf diesel for $600 that a couple weeks ago lost its transmission.

And while I had both VW's I bought the Leaf and still have all three cars today, both VW's still not running.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:44 pm

IssacZachary wrote:And yes, I'm trying to find someone who will let me charge, but so far I haven't.

I'm suggesting that you offer to pay for the L2 plug installation and kwh used.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:30 pm

Wow! You and transmissions just don't get along very well, eh? :roll:
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:14 pm

Indeed. I managed to blow one transmission in my life, despite having driven more cars than typical (I used to buy and resell them). A crappy Borg-Warmer BW-35, IIRC. The part about the BMWs was funny, though - from a distance.

Anyway, you might try figuring out how much you can afford to pay for charging, including a portable EVSE with plug. Then place an ad in whatever alternative weekly mag or paper you have there, looking for someone with an existing dryer/welder outlet in a garage or other suitable location, to be rented out for X dollars every month. Paying for exact usage rarely works - you have to offer double or more that (estimated), as a fixed fee. That could turn someone's unused outlet into gas money for them, and a reliable charging location for you.
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:51 am

SageBrush wrote:
IssacZachary wrote:And yes, I'm trying to find someone who will let me charge, but so far I haven't.

I'm suggesting that you offer to pay for the L2 plug installation and kwh used.


LeftieBiker wrote:Indeed. I managed to blow one transmission in my life, despite having driven more cars than typical (I used to buy and resell them). A crappy Borg-Warmer BW-35, IIRC. The part about the BMWs was funny, though - from a distance.

Anyway, you might try figuring out how much you can affords to pay for charging, including a portable EVSE with plug. The place an ad in whatever alternative weekly may or paper you have there, looking for someone with an existing dryer/welder outlet in a garage or other suitable location, to be rented out for X dollars every month. Paying for exact usage rarely works - you have to offer double or more that (estimated), as a fixed fee. That could turn someone's unused outlet into gas money for them, and a reliable charging location for you.

Sounds like a good idea. I would be more than happy to pay some $50 per month, maybe more, maybe even $100 per month. That's a lot cheaper than any car payment. Time to get to the paper and perhaps CraigsList!
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:10 am

Just remember that Craigslist is populated by psychotics. I couldn't even quote the first reply I got to an ad offering a used snowblower for sale last week... ;-(
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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:09 pm

IssacZachary wrote:
powersurge wrote:
But if it does sell, then $30,000 (Prius Prime) - $8,000 (Leaf) - $2,500 (savings) - $4,500 (federal) - $5,000 (state) = a $10,000 loan, which can be had at $250/month payment + fuel and everything else = around $700 per month average, (about $300 more per month than what I have paid all last year, but at least it would be a running car.) I even have a money work around planed for my taxes so that I can have that money as the downpayment and then reimburse the workaround once I figure out my taxes in early 2019.


Remember that you still have to pay upfront for those rebates. Your loan would include the extra $9500. Then a year from now when you do your taxes you get it back.

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Re: I have a Leaf, so now what?

Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:20 pm

ScottUrman wrote:
IssacZachary wrote:
powersurge wrote:
But if it does sell, then $30,000 (Prius Prime) - $8,000 (Leaf) - $2,500 (savings) - $4,500 (federal) - $5,000 (state) = a $10,000 loan, which can be had at $250/month payment + fuel and everything else = around $700 per month average, (about $300 more per month than what I have paid all last year, but at least it would be a running car.) I even have a money work around planed for my taxes so that I can have that money as the downpayment and then reimburse the workaround once I figure out my taxes in early 2019.


Remember that you still have to pay upfront for those rebates. Your loan would include the extra $9500. Then a year from now when you do your taxes you get it back.

Yes and thanks!

I have a plan though. If I buy in Colorado the $5,000 can now be sent directly to the dealer, so that means I only have to worry about the $4,500 unless I buy out-of-state. And I've also lowered my federal tax payments to $0, and instead am saving them. That's about $650 per month (I overpay). I don't know how long it will take to sell the Leaf but if it takes 7 months I'll have that $4,500 on hand and just break even with the IRS at the end of the year with their tax credit.

Or I can ask for a longer loan time so as to have lower payments, but pour the tax credits directly into the principal when I receive them.
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