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OrientExpress
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:45 pm

SageBrush wrote:I suppose the silver lining then is that Nissan has finally hit the 100 mile range barrier. Well ... not in winter, and not after 8 yrs of ownership. Woohoo !


What are you trying to describe?
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:59 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:The problem is that the $30K 2018 Leaf S will still cost $7500 more than the $30K Leaf S costs now (MSRP) and even much more than that for a discounted 2017.


Yes, but $30k is $5k less than $35K, and Nissan will continue to offer incentives of its own.


People who planned on buying or leasing a loaded SV (like me) aren't going to flock to the S with its lack of several important features. If Nissan steps up and offers enough incentives for me to lease an SV with just the Cold Weather Package (and assuming that Around View will be standard on the SV) for just a bit more than I was going to pay for a loaded SV, then I might still be in the game...mainly because I have't yet driven another EV I really like.
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:02 pm

jhm614 wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote:The problem is that the $30K 2018 Leaf S will still cost $7500 more than the $30K Leaf S costs now (MSRP) and even much more than that for a discounted 2017.


But it should be a level playing field, right? Meaning all EVs will cost $7,500 more.


All NEW EVs will cost about $7500 more (possibly excepting the Bolt, which could be priced just $2500 more than it costs now with the credit.) Used EVs will become the refuge for those who just can't afford or can't stomach the cost of a new EV with no tax credit. And more people will buy their leased vehicles. It won't be a happy time, though.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:15 pm

One of the original comments on the website was something along the lines of it having up to 100 KW DC fast charging. I had not seen that before . Has anybody seen that spec?
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:07 am

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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:43 am

They mention easier and faster charging but no mention on the fastcharging spec. Has anybody seen anything that indicates it will be faster than the 50KW spec it is now?
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:25 am

webeleafowners wrote:One of the original comments on the website was something along the lines of it having up to 100 KW DC fast charging. I had not seen that before . Has anybody seen that spec?


I thought the improved 100kW charging was for the 60kWh 2019 model. But that's just from memory.
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:29 pm

Maybe that’s it. If so that might swing us back towards the Leaf from the model 3. We don’t really need 220 miles of range but when we do go for a longer trip the faster charging would be nice. We’ll have to see the price difference in 2020.
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:05 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:One of the original comments on the website was something along the lines of it having up to 100 KW DC fast charging. I had not seen that before . Has anybody seen that spec?


I thought the improved 100kW charging was for the 60kWh 2019 model. But that's just from memory.


When I fast charged the LEAF, the charger said that it was charging it at 95kW.
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Re: 2018 LEAF starts Volume production - First deliveries in January

Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:26 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
webeleafowners wrote:One of the original comments on the website was something along the lines of it having up to 100 KW DC fast charging. I had not seen that before . Has anybody seen that spec?


I thought the improved 100kW charging was for the 60kWh 2019 model. But that's just from memory.


When I fast charged the LEAF, the charger said that it was charging it at 95kW.


Wow! I assume this was a 2018 Leaf, and not 2017 or earlier? What was the current draw? It would have to be something like 250A. Where did you find such a high-power charger?

On second thought, are you positive you aren't confusing power and current? 95A sounds a lot more likely than 95kW. 95A at 400V is only 38kW. The fastest DCQC around here is only 50kW nominal (100A at 500V, in practice this is more like 35-40kW)
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