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CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:43 pm

I may have missed this in a previous post - if so I apologize.
One of the many new laws passed in Corruptafornia for 2018 was to "expire" all HOV white stickers, with no option for renewal, at the end of 2018. I believe new ILEVs will qualify for a revised program, but no extensions are being given for the current white stickers. Is this just a placeholder until federal authorization is granted for the HOV exemptions? That HOV exemption is an incredible benefit.

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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:32 pm


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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:57 pm

For the tl;dr crowd:

  • Stickers issued to new cars after January 1, 2019 are valid for three full years and then until January 1 of their fourth year.
  • Drivers issued stickers in 2017 and 2018 will be able to apply for a new sticker in 2019 that is valid until January 1, 2022.
  • Stickers issued before January 1, 2017 will expire on January 1, 2019.

All stickers will expire on Jan 1, 2025 unless the Federal government allows CA and other states to extend this program beyond this date.
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:48 pm

My 2014 came with the white HOV stickers. This is all new to me, I only got the car in October. I live near Los Angeles, fortunately I don't drive freeways much, think I've only used the HOV lanes once or twice with the stickers, when traffic was flowing pretty well. I drive the Leaf conservatively (IOW, slowly) and got tired of being tailgated by other cars, so I got out pretty quickly and just tooled along on the regular lanes. So I won't miss 'em much when the stickers expire, but obviously if I was commuting every day in stop & go traffic, they would be a godsend. I've actually met several EV drivers who say we shouldn't get to drive in the HOV lane. I wouldn't go that far, just enjoy it while it lasts.
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:52 pm

how is law enforcement supposed to know if a sticker was issued in 2016 or 2017 or 2018. They all look alike! In the past they changed color when they wanted to expire a group. The yellow stickers were expired and then they went to the green/white that is currently in use. If they don't have a new color they will not be able to tell what year it was issued, so how do they determine if its expired?
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:10 pm

Got to love government regulations.

So a person who got their sticker Jan. 1, 2017 can use it for all of 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 which is a 5 full years. But the poor sap who got the sticker Dec. 31, 2016 can only use it for all of 2017 and 2018, just 2 full years. Was the late adopter somehow worthy of the extra 3 year reward? Guess those who adopted early for the benefit of the environment made a big mistake.
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:34 pm

palmermd wrote:how is law enforcement supposed to know if a sticker was issued in 2016 or 2017 or 2018. They all look alike!


As usual, politicians aren't putting forward well thought out rules.
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:43 am

palmermd wrote:how is law enforcement supposed to know if a sticker was issued in 2016 or 2017 or 2018. They all look alike! In the past they changed color when they wanted to expire a group. The yellow stickers were expired and then they went to the green/white that is currently in use. If they don't have a new color they will not be able to tell what year it was issued, so how do they determine if its expired?


The DMV will have to figure it out real soon.
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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:02 am

Just learned from https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2598431 they'll be issuing RED stickers soon, but stupidly, it's only valid until 1/1/19, just like the white and green ones. Weird!

From the wording, it seems like they might apply to ZEVs like EVs since ZEVs are considered part of ILEVs. Not 100% clear.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal reflects this right now. https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm I'm guessing will be updated soon.

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Re: CA HOV Stickers Expiring Year End?

Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:28 pm

palmermd wrote:how is law enforcement supposed to know if a sticker was issued in 2016 or 2017 or 2018. They all look alike! In the past they changed color when they wanted to expire a group. The yellow stickers were expired and then they went to the green/white that is currently in use. If they don't have a new color they will not be able to tell what year it was issued, so how do they determine if its expired?

That's why people who got them in 2017 and 2018 will have to get new stickers to go past 1/1/19. They'll have new ones that expire at the right time.
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