edatoakrun
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:54 am

racerkit wrote:June, 2011 car here.
Currently at 71,500 miles
Cost of Maintenance: $365 - set of tire at 64K miles and a set of wipers
8 bar reached at about year 6th (~70mos), 62K miles in March, 2017
Begged/Negotiated with Nissan, and paid $2400 for a new 2017 battery pack.

--- there was speculation that 2017 battery pack is maybe a 2016+ model battery pack with 30kWH at 107 miles range, and not the original Lizard pack. My experiences so far is proven more truth than not ;) . I am now getting 105, 107 on full charge, even on the new less efficient tires (non OEM Ecopia). I am not sure if it's true 30kwh pack, but definitely more than the original 24kwh capacity.

AVTA test results showed 2013 LEAF packs (and presumably, all "24 kWh" packs manufactured since) did have greater capacity than the defective 2011 and 2012 LEAF packs, but I doubt any of the "24 kWh" replacement packs were close to 30 kWh.

edatoakrun wrote:Posting ~on my LEAF's build date anniversary, rather than delivery, since I have some free time...

I'm expecting to reach about 60 k miles by mid-May, and expect to see about 600 Wh in additional available capacity loss over the last year, the same as the last few years, once temps increase to the point I will regain most of the Winter seasonal capacity loss...

Any other seven-year 2011 owners want to post to bring this thread back on-topic?
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:08 am

I am going to agree with Ed on this. Back before I got my 2011, there was talk of how these batteries could be used for PV storage after their useful life in a car was over. A used battery would work well with my pv system. Many of us thought this to be a useful option before we purchased our Leafs. I guess we were thinking that Nissan would "take care of us" for being silly enough to jump into this new technology.
They could have given us replacements at cost as a show of goodwill. But they chose not to.

On the logistical side, getting the core back would be a difficult endeavor. Needing a truck to haul pack back to residence and some way to get it out of truck would be a chore. But, this should be up to the customer, not Nissan.
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maini
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:36 pm

OrientExpress wrote:This is an interesting comparison to show how the LEAF's technology has, and is continuing to improve.

My 2014 now almost has 52000 miles on it, has all its bars and still goes 78-85 miles on a charge.



Wow how did you manage that?? I am in Cupertino with a 2014 car with 35K miles. We bought it brand new and lost a bar at 31K miles a few months ago.
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:22 am

My 2011 has about 28,000 miles on it and still suits 96% of my driving needs. I use my wife's Acura for the other 4%. It still has 10 capacity bars. I've switched from 80% charging nightly to 100%. I don't know what the maximum range is because I don't want (or need) to test its limits. Anything over 45 miles R/T or so, I just take the other car. I won't take it to SF Intl., for example (~55 miles) to pick up my daughter and her husband when they visit (3 people, luggage, freeway speeds, climate control) but I will to San Jose (30 mi.) It's been super reliable, fun and easy to drive and park in small places. I've recently bought new tires, and once had some minor body work done below the passenger door when I was careless pulling into a spot next to a high curb, but other than that I've had no repairs and only the mandated free 1-year inspection and software upgrade. Oh yes, new wiper blades, too.

I am beginning to consider giving it up, though. That 96% of my needs used to be 99% so it's slowly losing its value to me. Also some of the other things I liked are gone, while the things I didn't like haven't gotten better. When the 2G(?) connection was lost I didn't upgrade because I don't have a smart phone. Now I can't start the heater remotely (or even by getting in the car) on cold mornings and I can't transmit destinations to the car with Google Maps. The short sun visor and sub-par sound system bother me, too. The pedestrian warning no longer sounds and the horn and heater have always been inadequate. These things didn't matter much when the Leaf was really the only practical electric vehicle out there, but now there are plenty of alternatives. Still, it's difficult to justify the expense of a new car when my wife and I both love driving the Leaf and it meets our needs as well as it does.

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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:37 am

Take a look at a 2017 Hyundai IONIQ, if I could afford a new EV that's what I would buy.

For some reason, sales haven't exactly been stellar, so you can probably get a great deal from a Hyundai dealer that's had the car sitting on their lot for months.

Every review I've seen or read on the IONIQ has been favorable, in particular the Regen system gets rave reviews and the drag coefficient is super low, meaning great range at highway speeds.
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:17 pm

You mean the Ioniq EV? That's still only sold in California, although a dealer special order might be possible in some places now.
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:04 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:You mean the Ioniq EV? That's still only sold in California, although a dealer special order might be possible in some places now.


Gen II was going to be nationwide

Gen I is a compliancecar

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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:49 pm

The 2018 Ioniq is sold only in California.
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:48 am

edatoakrun wrote:The only real surprise since my six-year post was Nissan's new screw you policy RE pack replacement, instituted last Fall.


Hmm, did I miss the news? What changed? Or is this in reference to them ending the "goodwill" program?
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:24 pm

maini wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:This is an interesting comparison to show how the LEAF's technology has, and is continuing to improve.

My 2014 now almost has 52000 miles on it, has all its bars and still goes 78-85 miles on a charge.



Wow how did you manage that?? I am in Cupertino with a 2014 car with 35K miles. We bought it brand new and lost a bar at 31K miles a few months ago.


It was my wife commuter car and all she did was charge it to 100% each night and for the last six or so months DCQC it every afternoon at the free DRIVEtheARC station three blocks from the house.
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