thimel
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Delivery Date: 11 Jun 2011
Location: SF bay area

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Tue May 29, 2018 8:26 pm

2011RedLeaf wrote:It only gets driven about 10 miles every other day so the decreased capacity hasn’t been a problem.
The GPS died and I had to have it repaired for a cost of 500 dollars. It has been completely reliable.

Idle curiosity: Why did you get the GPS fixed? I suspect you know all the roads within 10 miles of home. Does the same module do something else which is more important?

We are spoiled and sometimes use the GPS to go somewhere new instead of using a map. Nothing else was wrong besides the dead GPS.

91040
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Delivery Date: 06 May 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:34 pm

Hit seven years of ownership a month ago with 156k miles on the car. Full charge with the second traction battery is ~240 Gids. It hasn’t lost a capacity bar yet.

Significant repairs were replacing the traction battery, climate control fan and the failed diode in the onboard charger. Otherwise, it has been just the usual wear and tear items. Didn’t bother to update the telecommunication module. The struts will probably need to be replaced soon.

Adding the Brusa charger was and is crucial in having this car meet my driving needs.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16.25mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.61Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.38Ah, end 36.13Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.14Ah
1st- 160.5k 34mo 54.02Ah

DarthPuppy
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:20 pm

Wow that is a lot of miles for a 7 year old car. Glad to hear the 2nd battery seems to be holding up better than the 1st if my math is right.

Were the fan and diode covered under warranty? If not, how big of a hit were those?
'13 Leaf SL
'18 Honda Clarity Touring PHEV

91040
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Location: Los Angeles, CA

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:28 pm

The climate control fan was covered by Nissan out of warranty. It was within the warranty’s time limit but beyond the mileage limit.

I added a diode to the pilot line to avoid replacing the onboard charger. I was far beyond the warranty and replacement is quite expensive.
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16.25mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.61Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.38Ah, end 36.13Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.14Ah
1st- 160.5k 34mo 54.02Ah

edatoakrun
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Delivery Date: 15 May 2011
Leaf Number: 2184
Location: Shasta County, North California

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:42 am

91040 wrote:Hit seven years of ownership a month ago with 156k miles on the car...

Would you care to tell us what your total cost for ownership (TCO) experience has been?

Been meaning to do this myself, but I expect yours is a lot lower than mine (at only ~60 k) per mile.
no condition is permanent

camasleaf
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Delivery Date: 17 Jun 2011
Location: Camas, WA

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:17 pm

Reached 7 years today.

Ah 45.21
SOH. 68.92
HX 46.92
80277 miles

I can still squeeze 60 miles out of it, but 50 is more comfortable.

With the warmer weather, and more regen available, I now hear clicking at the axle when accelerating after regen goes over 25 kW. I am wondering if I can clean and lube myself or I have to take the car to the dealer. It will be the first paid dealer work on the car. No other issues.
2011 SLe 06/17/11 Over 82000 miles 66%SOH 14.6kWh
2018 Honda Clarity PHEV $120 gasoline in 5600 miles
5.7kW DC System

91040
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Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:42 pm

Any guidelines for what you want included in a TCO?
1st Capacity Bar loss 30k mi 16.25mo
2nd- 49k mi 25.5mo 51.5Ah
3rd- 73k mi 36.5mo 46.9Ah
4th- 86.5k mi 43mo 42.61Ah
5th- 101k mi 50.5mo 38.38Ah, end 36.13Ah
New Battery 9/28/15 104k mi 66.14Ah
1st- 160.5k 34mo 54.02Ah

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mgoleta
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Delivery Date: 21 Apr 2011
Location: Goleta,CA

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:34 pm

2011 LEAF SL, QC ,April 21,2011

Current mileage, 40.1K, 10/12 bars, only around town driving. Only L1 charging to 80% first 4 years, last 3+ years L1 charging to 100%, Never ended up using QC or L2.

The first set of tires wore out at 20K miles (3-1/2 years). Replaced at Costco ($470). These tires also lasted 20K mi, 3-1/2 years but they had 60K warranty. As a result Costco replaced all 4 tires for a net of $165.
Otherwise service costs have been quite minimal, total of 3 brake fluid changes, yearly battery check (first 2 years were free), tire rotation (free after getting Costco tires). Touch-up paint for small nicks and scratches, $26, 12V battery replacement after 7 years ($81 from Costco), yearly replacement of windshield wipers from Costco ($7).
Unplanned costs, $200, upgrade of telematics after ATT retirement of 1G service.
This year I had some intermittent operation of the backup camera caused by loose cable.

The car has been solid and reliable.

We just replaced the 2011 LEAF and our 2007 Prius with a 2018 Bolt Premiere and a 2018 LEAF S with winter package (ie. heated seats in both cars). Now we are a completely EV household. Gave up on our reservation for a Tesla M3 standard range after it became apparent that it would not be delivered until after the federal tax credit starts phasing out (2019 Q1 or 2019 Q2).

Total electricity costs for entire house net $120 over 7 years (monthly service charges minus energy buy back at end of each year). Total cost of original solar installation, $12.5K. Projected yearly cost going forward with 2 electric cars, $90/year for entire house.

Our original 2011 LEAF will continue on with one of our friends.
Glacial Pearl 2011 LEAF SL, QC delivered 4/21/2011, sold 7/22/2018
Chevy Bolt Premiere, 6/4/2018
White 2018 LEAF S, QC, Winter package, 6/14/2018

jbuntz
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Delivery Date: 17 Dec 2016
Leaf Number: 303765
Location: New Braunfels, TX

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:48 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:I think it will be hilarious if the issues with the 30kWh cars turn out to just be software and not anything to do with chemistry.


Hilarious for whom, exactly? And do you really think that Nissan programmed these cars to appear to drop capacity bars and lose range even though the actual capacity doesn't drop rapidly? You need to pick and choose your talking points a bit more carefully.

I think tragic would be a more apt description for those people that bought a 107 mi car and have suffered the anguish and frustration of watching the capacity degrade to less than a 24kWh car in less than 2 years and have been stuck with an expensive car that does not meet their needs.
Mfg 11/15 Del 12/16 TX 2016 SL 30kWh,
Date Bar MI GID Ahr SOH
05/17 12 05175 324 70.75 89
08/17 11 09245 282 61.68 77
10/17 10 12000 260 57.22 71
01/18 09 15329 244 53.72 68
06/20 08 21716 230 50.41 63
06/27 11 22047 296 66.01 83 Aftr Updt

pjoseph
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Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:01 pm
Delivery Date: 24 Sep 2011
Leaf Number: 1186
Location: Austin, Tx

Re: Seven year report, 2011 LEAF.

Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:59 am

Purchased in Sept 2011 (Manufactured in March).

LeafSpy currently shows a 60 ~ mile range (miles to 1 kWh). All 12 bars intact.

Will post more details shortly.
2011 Blue Ocean SL
96k miles, Sept 2018
Traction battery replaced, Sept 23rd, 2015
Powered by a 6.44 kW AC PV system

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