oobflyer
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:40 am

We just got our '18 LEAF four days ago - loving it so far. Today will be the first 'long drive' (120 miles round trip). The fuel gauge seems accurate so far (unlike our 2012 LEAF!) so I don't think there will be any problems, but there are charging stations along the way, just in case ;-)
Can't say anything bad about the car (except for the 'Nissan Connect' problem) - it powerful, smooth, torquey, comfortable and appears to really have the claimed range of 150 miles (again today will be the first test of this).

On our old LEAF it was recommended to charge to 80% on a regular basis and only charge to 100% when absolutely necessary - this to improve battery longevity - however, I don't see any mention of this for the Gen II LEAF. I searched the owner's manual - nothing. No recommendations by the dealership - seems that this is no longer a concern? OK to charge to 100% every day? Anyone heard anything about this?
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TNRC
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:36 am

On our old LEAF it was recommended to charge to 80% on a regular basis and only charge to 100% when absolutely necessary - this to improve battery longevity - however, I don't see any mention of this for the Gen II LEAF. I searched the owner's manual - nothing. No recommendations by the dealership - seems that this is no longer a concern? OK to charge to 100% every day? Anyone heard anything about this?


I have always charged to 100%. I think the important thing is battery temperature and not leave charged at 100% for any period of time. My 3 leafs have always been kept in a cool garage and charged with level 2. My 2012 only had 10% degradation after 3 years and 44,000 miles. My 2015 showed no noticeable degradation after 3 years and 39,000 miles. I do not have leaf spy so cannot be as accurate about this as others who do.
I have always in the past charged after almost every use as we usually used about 80-90% of the capacity. With the 2018 leaf this will not be the case. So far we a getting back from our trips with over 50% of capacity left. I have a decision to make whether I will be charging at 50% or doing 2 days use and running capacity down very low before recharging.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:08 pm

hitman007 wrote:Also getting 3.8 miles per KW hour. Usually it says range 165 after a full charge. Love the car so far. It is a bummer the Nissan Connect EV app is not working. I came from a Tesla and their app worked flawlessly from day 1. Nissan should consult with them to fix this issue! lol



you are probably closer to that 165 than you realize. There is a HUGE hidden buffer at the bottom of the pack. Check out part two of my blog (at the end although the first part is interesting too... :) )

http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2018/03 ... -leaf.html
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:13 pm

TNRC wrote:On our old LEAF it was recommended to charge to 80% on a regular basis and only charge to 100% when absolutely necessary - this to improve battery longevity - however, I don't see any mention of this for the Gen II LEAF. I searched the owner's manual - nothing. No recommendations by the dealership - seems that this is no longer a concern? OK to charge to 100% every day? Anyone heard anything about this?


I have always charged to 100%. I think the important thing is battery temperature and not leave charged at 100% for any period of time. My 3 leafs have always been kept in a cool garage and charged with level 2. My 2012 only had 10% degradation after 3 years and 44,000 miles. My 2015 showed no noticeable degradation after 3 years and 39,000 miles. I do not have leaf spy so cannot be as accurate about this as others who do.
I have always in the past charged after almost every use as we usually used about 80-90% of the capacity. With the 2018 leaf this will not be the case. So far we a getting back from our trips with over 50% of capacity left. I have a decision to make whether I will be charging at 50% or doing 2 days use and running capacity down very low before recharging.


Heat acts as a catalyst for the detrimental effects of high SOC so its helps to be cool but degradation is still there. Its a voltage thing. So time is critical.

The real advice is simply do not charge to full if you don't need it. Too many people here have the extra range and I get this "Now I only charge every 2 or 3 days" and that is a HUGE mistake!

Do not charge to full unless you need that full range! Nissan did not step and make it easy for you but that does not mean you don't have options.
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TNRC
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:51 am

The real advice is simply do not charge to full if you don't need it. Too many people here have the extra range and I get this "Now I only charge every 2 or 3 days" and that is a HUGE mistake!



Thanks Dave for your reply to this.

I will now be adjusting my state of charge with the charge timer and if I need 50 % charge I will charge for about 2.5 hrs.

PS. I am a frequent reader of your blog

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 am

TNRC wrote:
The real advice is simply do not charge to full if you don't need it. Too many people here have the extra range and I get this "Now I only charge every 2 or 3 days" and that is a HUGE mistake!



Thanks Dave for your reply to this.

I will now be adjusting my state of charge with the charge timer and if I need 50 % charge I will charge for about 2.5 hrs.

PS. I am a frequent reader of your blog


Well thanks for reading!

I have pretty much decided I will only charge to full when temp is under 50º and do whatever I can to make the charge finish at or near my departure time.


FYI; twice I have left within 5 mins of charge complete time but 3-4 times I have left before charge was complete but still had PLENTY of range to make it! :)

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oobflyer
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:55 pm

Today will be the first 'long drive' (120 miles round trip)


We were able to drive 54 miles using 39% of the battery, which extrapolates to about 138 miles total range, not bad. And if it's true that there is a 'reserve' of another 10 miles or so - then it would seem likely to be able to go close to 150 miles/charge.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:00 am

oobflyer wrote:
Today will be the first 'long drive' (120 miles round trip)


We were able to drive 54 miles using 39% of the battery, which extrapolates to about 138 miles total range, not bad. And if it's true that there is a 'reserve' of another 10 miles or so - then it would seem likely to be able to go close to 150 miles/charge.


The reserve is closer to 13 miles or 20 in my case driving VERY conservatively averaging 156 wh/mile verses the 2.23 wh/mile for the main part of the trip. Previous blog on range test was edited to add new info.
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NJLeaf75
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:55 pm

Per my message below, i was waiting for a call back from Nissan to tell me whether the code/serial number they provided to Sirius XM resolved the issue I was having with the Nissan Connect EV app. I did not receive a call back. That said, about a week after Nissan transmitted the code/serial number to Sirius XM, I logged onto the Nissan Connect EV and saw that the app was finally receiving data from my vehicle. I can now use the app to check on my charge status, control my car’scumae remotely, etc. In short, it looks like the issue was successfully resolved.

NJLeaf75 wrote:I have had issues with Nissan Connect EV as well. I bought 2018 Leaf SL back in early February. The app would not display any charge/mileage info and I could not control the car’s temperature remotely, even though I was all set up at the Owner’s Portal and all the info in my car’s touch screen was set properly. In short, the app never worked at all. After numerous calls to the helpline, and after two tickets were opened by helpline reps, I was told there was an issue with the TCU and that I had to take my car back to the dealership to get the TCU repaired. That is not what you want to hear when you have had your car for less than two weeks. I took it back to the dealership. They kept the car for three days. They completely replaced the TCU. When they returned the car to me, they told me that it was now up to the folks at the Nissan Connect EV helpline to “reset” the TCU. That, to my chagrin, did not fix the issue. So what did the helpline do? They opened another ticket.

The last I hear from the helpline is that the issue appears to be that Sirius XM, whose platform is used to operate the TCU, needed to be provided with a code/serial number. Nissan’s helpline informed me that they provided Sirius XM with that code/serial number yesterday. I am suppose to receive an update from the helpline by Monday, after they follow up with Sirius XM. I am not holding my breath. The Nissan Connect EV has been the only negative I have encountered with the 2018 Leaf.

jonathanfields4ever
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Re: 2018 First two weeks...

Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:05 am

oobflyer wrote:
Today will be the first 'long drive' (120 miles round trip)


We were able to drive 54 miles using 39% of the battery, which extrapolates to about 138 miles total range, not bad. And if it's true that there is a 'reserve' of another 10 miles or so - then it would seem likely to be able to go close to 150 miles/charge.


39% seems like a lot. Was it mostly highway speeds? My commute happens to be almost exactly 54 miles (87km) through the mountains and I’ve never used more than 36%. I managed just 26% on a warm day once.

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