Auntrattie
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Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:25 pm

I'm new to this forum and, like many others here, need replacement batteries for my 2011 Leaf. To say I'm disgusted with Nissan is, I guess, under stated and redundant ... I will certainly never buy one of their cars again after the misleading info they put out when I purchased this car, most especially about their battery "warranty". Nevertheless facts are facts... and the fact is I need to replace my batteries. I see JC Whitney offers a refurbished battery pack for $2100 and I wonder if anyone here has tried that route? Spending $5000 for Nissans replacement battery doesn't appeal to me, especially since I really hate their business practices. Anyone tried that J C Whitney replacement?

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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:27 pm

Link to the listing?
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Auntrattie
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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:46 pm

https://www.carparts.com/details/Dorman ... lsrc=aw.ds

Wow, that's a long link...I hope it works?

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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:56 pm

Auntrattie wrote:https://www.carparts.com/details/Dorman/Battery_Pack/RB587004.html?TID=gglpla&origin=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo8-cq7e22gIVUJ7ACh3Cbw86EAsYASABEgLWZPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Wow, that's a long link...I hope it works?

No idea what's that's for but I highly doubt it'll work given that it looks nothing like a Leaf battery pack.

Have never heard of JC Whitney nor Dorman, let alone having anything to do w/Leafs. Are there any actual specs on that thing? I doubt it's the right voltage and capacity.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/10 ... as-the-car and https://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/27/det ... ide-105931 show what the pack looks like.

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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:20 pm

Searching the site for Leaf parts doesn't get me that pack, and as noted it doesn't mention a car in the listing.

J.C. Whitney was the king of mail order auto parts, back in the day of mail and phone orders. The quality of the parts was all over the map, but they did have a large selection, and prices were often very low.
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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:25 pm

viewtopic.php?p=508708#p508708 has a timelapse video of a pack swap.... well, rather worn modules from a guy's pack being swapped with newer ones in much better condition. It's very labor intensive vs. swapping the entire pack, but there are reasons. See posts by Cor in that thread.

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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:27 pm

People like Isaac Zachary who are looking to mod their pack systems might want to look further into that unit. It looks like it's maybe half the capacity, and maybe half the size, of a Leaf pack.
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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:40 pm

A quick Google search for dorman 587-004 points to https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-66718-587-004.aspx. Apparently, it's a pack for an '06 to '11 Civic Hybrid.

So, it probably has a tiny fraction of the capacity of a Leaf battery (like under 4 kWh) and probably NiMH w/D-cells inside. Honda didn't go li-ion on HCH until I believe model year 2012.

edit: Found https://web.archive.org/web/20120516133 ... ic8725.pdf. NiMH, totally wrong voltage and capacity not even 1 kWh. Hahaha.

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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:45 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Have never heard of JC Whitney nor Dorman, let alone having anything to do w/Leafs. Are there any actual specs on that thing? I doubt it's the right voltage and capacity.

As LB said, JC Whitney used to be the king of mail-order auto parts, I used to order from them all the time, everything from Rings or crankshaft bearings to cheap Chinese made plastic auto flashlights and auto accessories.
Dorman is probably the largest current supplier of aftermarket auto parts. Cheaper than OEM in both price and quality, overall I've had pretty good luck with their parts. My most recent purchase, a rubber hatch release button for our Prius. The old one turned into a sticky goo, making your fingers sticky or black everytime you'd open the hatch. The new Dorman installed like a Breeze, lets see how long it lasts.......the OEM lasted a little shy of 10 years.
Not sure I'd trust ordering a replacement battery from JC Whitney or Dorman, probably best to stick with OEM or a junkyard for something like that :)
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Re: Replacement battery from JC Whitney?

Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:34 pm

Auntrattie wrote:I'm new to this forum and, like many others here, need replacement batteries for my 2011 Leaf. To say I'm disgusted with Nissan is, I guess, under stated and redundant ... I will certainly never buy one of their cars again after the misleading info they put out when I purchased this car, most especially about their battery "warranty". Nevertheless facts are facts... and the fact is I need to replace my batteries. I see JC Whitney offers a refurbished battery pack for $2100 and I wonder if anyone here has tried that route? Spending $5000 for Nissans replacement battery doesn't appeal to me, especially since I really hate their business practices. Anyone tried that J C Whitney replacement?

What is misleading about the warranty? They have a 5 Year/50,000 mile capacity warranty (newer leafs have longer capacity warranties) and a 100,000 mile (number of years may vary by state) total failure warranty.

I just want to know what is misleading on this one.

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