Nubo wrote:kennethbokor wrote:I'm just sticking up for the new Leaf since I am seeing more negative news than positive coming mostly from people who have no idea about EVs and the Leaf.
I find your condescension unbecoming especially when it's in service of promoting your video channel.
Plenty of people here with lots of EV and LEAF experience. And anything that suggests further weakness in the battery is a reasonable concern to those who have LEAF experience. If a 2018 with significantly more capacity can be beat by several hours in a days' drive by an older LEAF, it raises questions for someone even if they never plan on multiple QCs in a day or never QC at all. It raises the possibility that the new battery might be even more heat-susceptible than previous ones. There may be other explanations but given the car's history the worry should not be discounted.
I'm perfectly willing to wait and see, and there is plenty about the LEAF that I do like. I've leased two and purchased the 2nd. But that doesn't make me want to bury my head in the sand; the car has had some drawbacks. So what "you're seeing" may make more sense if you open your eyes and look through some of the most active threads on the forum over the last 7 years to understand the opinions of people who do have an idea about EVs and LEAF, instead of barging in with a shiny video channel and a dismissive attitude.
The concern is absolutely valid. Nissan has a bad track record with regard to battery degradation and other defects.
The problem I, and I’m sure a lot of others, have is the toxicity. Insulting Leaf owners/lessees on a forum called My Nissan Leaf is pretty weird. I’ve been called an idiot, a sucker, poor, and a lot of other names simply for arguing that the 2018 Leaf has positive aspects and that the new batteries are likely last longer due to different chemistry (as opposed to the “Lizard” pack, which was apparently just a different electrolytic solution).
There’s absolutely room for negative comments. Not everyone will have a positive experience. But in my very short time on the forum, it seems like Tesla fans and (understandably) salty pre-2018 Leaf owners are trying to drag everyone down.