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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:55 am

Evoforce wrote:Plenty of the 2012-13 S 85 selling in the low 40s and S 60 in the 30s. Start shopping for one if you are truly interested.


Actually I've been pricing a lot of them, even a couple 85's even as low as $35,000.

But if I were to go that route a new Telsa 3 might make more sense. I would be able to deduct a $3,250 federal tax credit (assuming I wouldn't make the full $7,500) and a $5,000 state tax credit off of a new EV, but not a used one.

SageBrush wrote:<span>Use that <a class="interlinkr" href="http://www.myelectriccarforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67">Tesla<span class="tip">Visit the Tesla Forum</span></a> reservation on a <a class="interlinkr" href="http://www.myelectriccarforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67">Model 3<span class="tip">Visit the Model 3 Forum</span></a> SR. $37k before tax credits</span>
That is my plan :-)

<span>If I did not despise GM and my locale had CCS I would think about the<a class="interlinkr" href="http://www.mychevybolt.com/forum" target="_blank"> Bolt <span class="tip">Visit the Chevy Bolt EV</span></a>for the right price.</span>

I'm sorry to lose my hatchback too.

Thanks! If I can sell both my Leaf and 1972 VW Beetle for a good price this summer, I will!
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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:22 pm

Thanks Evoforce. Definitely appreciate you taking time to share your thoughts! I think you hit the important points on all those vehicles. Wow, you have 3 EVs?

Thanks Sagebrush. Do you think there'll be tax credits left by the time the $37k Model 3 is available? Lol, yeah, I never had a Nissan before the LEAF, and haven't had a Chevy for a ride since the old Chevelles. Am grateful that, probably to Bob Lutz's credit?, that the Volt & Bolt are real choices. I think the Volts & Bolts have been decent? We're pretty lucky to have a bit of CCS available in our area.

LeftieBiker - I like that we can stand the wheelchair in the 2011 hatch and have space for more stuff. Although the chair can be laid down in a Prius hatch, it takes more body mechanics with the wieldy wheels. Thanks again!

Anyone have a favorite sales person in the SF Bay area?

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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:37 pm

LeftieBiker - I like that we can stand the wheelchair in the 2011 hatch and have space for more stuff. Although the chair can be laid down in a Prius hatch, it takes more body mechanics with the wieldy wheels. Thanks again!


While I THINK that the 2018 has as much height available in the cargo area, I don't know that for a fact. I suggest you see if that height is in the published specs. Or after Monday, when I pick up mine, I can measure it myself for you.
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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:06 pm

GoingGreener wrote:Thanks Evoforce. Definitely appreciate you taking time to share your thoughts! I think you hit the important points on all those vehicles. Wow, you have 3 EVs?

Thanks Sagebrush. Do you think there'll be tax credits left by the time the $37k Model 3 is available? Lol, yeah, I never had a Nissan before the LEAF, and haven't had a Chevy for a ride since the old Chevelles. Am grateful that, probably to Bob Lutz's credit?, that the Volt & Bolt are real choices. I think the Volts & Bolts have been decent? We're pretty lucky to have a bit of CCS available in our area.

LeftieBiker - I like that we can stand the wheelchair in the 2011 hatch and have space for more stuff. Although the chair can be laid down in a Prius hatch, it takes more body mechanics with the wieldy wheels. Thanks again!

Anyone have a favorite sales person in the SF Bay area?


You are welcome! Yes, 3 EVs. Having a long range and short range definitely handles our needs. Well with one exception, I need a LR electric truck for my boat and travel trailer. Speaking of wheelchairs (travel/standard) or more importantly someone who is disabled, my daughter has a harder time getting out of the Model S (rear) door than she does with the Leafs. Heck, I have a harder time getting in and out of the Tesla front seat compared to the Leafs. Model X would have better access for the rear seat and I haven't tried her out in the Model 3 rear door opening yet. I have a friend with a Model 3 and I should look into trying the wheelchairs in the trunk and her getting in and out at the rear door opening.
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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:43 pm

GoingGreener wrote:Thanks Sagebrush. Do you think there'll be tax credits left by the time the $37k Model 3 is available?

Yes, If you have an early reservation.
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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:34 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
LeftieBiker - I like that we can stand the wheelchair in the 2011 hatch and have space for more stuff. Although the chair can be laid down in a Prius hatch, it takes more body mechanics with the wieldy wheels. Thanks again!


While I THINK that the 2018 has as much height available in the cargo area, I don't know that for a fact. I suggest you see if that height is in the published specs. Or after Monday, when I pick up mine, I can measure it myself for you.


Thanks, will check. And w/SL model, the Bose is in the trunk. Did you buy/lease a 2018?

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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:37 pm

Did you buy/lease a 2018?


Yes, a 2018 SL. I'll be picking it up on Monday, barring the unforeseen. I'm also looking to swap the the grey leather seats for cloth SV seats (with Tech package power driver seat) of either color.
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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:41 pm

Sounds like you are looking to buy new and want an EV family car. You might want to wait until year end, when the Kia Kona BEV should be available:

https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/kona-electric

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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:02 pm

Evoforce - Except for the Tesla X, all their other models are lower to the ground. Lower makes the cars sportier, but definitely impacts the ease/comfort of entry/exit of vehicles. Hope you can check out your friend's Model 3; The back doors might be ok for your daughter; Our standard wheelchair will probably not work in the 3's trunk. We sat in the X this past weekend & the seats seemed the opposite, a little high.

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Re: 2011 LEAF Replacement: Need Help w/Pros & Cons of 2018 BOLT, I3, LEAF & Tesla Model 3

Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:04 pm

Also, nice on the 3 EVs!! :)

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