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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Fri May 18, 2018 6:33 pm

rjcool wrote:3. The amp for dryer is 30.
You want a 24 amp EVSE to use that 30 amp connector.

Example:
https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/lcs-30p-nema-14-30

Get the right plug. This one has a 14-30 and you may need a 10-30 or something else.
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 5:41 am

Thank you for all the replies and suggestions.

The dryer plug is 14-30. It looks like the evse stock plug from Nissan except the one pin is shaped into an L shape rather than just straight.

I am leaning towards in using my current dryer outlet and then purchase a 24amp or 16amp so that I don't have to worry about overloading.

I will cut a hole in the wall so that the charger can go from garage to the laundry room and just switch from dryer to charger - at least it removes the risk of us using both at the same time.

The set up above should work right?

Thanks again.

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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 9:33 am

Random hole between the garage and laundry living space may not meet building fire codes.
I assumed the connector was in the garage. I would have an electrician evaluate the situation.
Otherwise yes electrically it would work fine.
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 9:53 am

rjcool wrote:Thank you for all the replies and suggestions.

The dryer plug is 14-30. It looks like the evse stock plug from Nissan except the one pin is shaped into an L shape rather than just straight.

I am leaning towards in using my current dryer outlet and then purchase a 24amp or 16amp so that I don't have to worry about overloading.

I will cut a hole in the wall so that the charger can go from garage to the laundry room and just switch from dryer to charger - at least it removes the risk of us using both at the same time.

The set up above should work right?

Thanks again.


Get the Clipper Creek. They have models that match your dryer plug and run at 24 amps. This is what I use. It was around $500
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 9:56 am

i am doing exactly this with my leaf, I have a 14-30R dryer outlet on the left side of the dryer and I wired in another wall mount outlet across the back of on the right side the dryer and then installed another on the other side of the wall from that in the garage. this way I can plug both in at the same time, though if I start the dryer while the car is charging it will pop the breaker.

I put one of these on the garage side of the wall for my 16 amp charger:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-30- ... /202066672

and one of these on the dryer side of the wall
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-30- ... /202077646

I then bought a pig tail for the second outlet and ran it from the original dryer outlet into the second link above. I connected the two wall mount outlets through a piece of flex conduit through the wall.

pigtail was something like this:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpool-4 ... /202647848

this way I can easily delete all this if I ever sell the house and revert the dryer to its original plug. total cost about 50 bucks.


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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 11:11 am

Bad idea at many levels not to mention a fire hazard, code violation. What if your dryer is on when the car is at a lower SOC and the load does not trip the breaker but heats the wires? Many reasons this could go wrong. That wire is not rated for use in a conduit either.

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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 11:49 am

As far as sharing the dryer receptacle goes, you can use a device like this that lets you use a single 14-30R with both a dryer and an EVSE:

https://www.bsaelectronics.com/products ... lt-ammeter

For my installation, my Zencar is on a dedicated circuit so I don't share the receptacle with a dryer. If I did, I'd look for something similar to the Dryer Buddy.
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sat May 19, 2018 7:17 pm

As others have replied. A 30A outlet is rated for 24A max (80% for 30A is 24A). You either need an adjustable EVSE like OpenEVSE ot a fixed 30A input one like Clipper Creek. In any event the supplied EVSE will not work.
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Sun May 20, 2018 10:10 am

Going through the wall with a cord is a code violation, as is having an unsealed opening between the house and garage. That's why the door from the garage to the house has to have a closer and weatherstripping. Installing a second outlet on the other side of the wall requires a permit and inspection and I don't think it would be allowed.

Since the dryer outlet isn't in the garage, I think you should bite the bullet and do a new install.
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Re: Dryer Outlet Usage for 2018 Nissan Leaf

Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:17 pm

Just got my Leaf and I have the same issue as the original poster. The stock EVSE won't work with my dryer outlet (and I'm in a rental so it doesn't make sense to invest in future proofing). Gonna invest in a 24A EVSE with a Nema 14-30 plug ( my receptacle is currently a Nema 10-30 but will get an electrician to change the outlet and the dryer's plug

Is there a market for the stock 14-50 EVSE I got with my Leaf? Wondering if I can sell it to defray the cost of the replacement.

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