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Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Sun May 27, 2018 1:03 pm

Hi Folks,

I’ve been looking all around, including the California dmv site for details on used cars with white CAV stickers to renew with Red. It’s quite nebulous. Has anyone attempted to apply for one that is a used car owner with white stickers? I bought mine used in August that came with the car.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Sun May 27, 2018 8:54 pm

What year is the car? The reason I ask if it was issued stickers before 1/1/2017, those cars won't have solo HOV access after the end of this year, so there's really no point in applying. Existing green and white stickers are valid until the end of the year according to https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm

Someone on a different (non-EV) forum has a used Leaf and he just got his red stickers, even though his car won't qualify after the end of the year.

My younger brother has a 2016 eGolf but because of delays in processing, he didn't get his sticker until early 2017, so he's lucky and will get his HOV privileges extended.
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Sun May 27, 2018 10:53 pm

Like RonDawg says, it's all about issue date. Regardless of model year, if the stickers were first issued after 1/1/2017, you can apply for red stickers in 2019 that will last until 2022. If you can find a used BEV or PHEV car that was never issued CA HOV stickers, and get stickers for it this year, they'll be red, and you can also apply for extension to 2022.

At least, that's the current law text, and could change.
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Sun May 27, 2018 11:23 pm

Without looking at the paperwork, I’m not sure. The car is a 2011.

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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:58 pm

Has anyone tried to apply for the red stickers? I don't see any instructions on how to apply for the red stickers on the website.
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:11 pm

I think they are now only issuing red stickers. When I applied in March, there was no spot to specify and they sent red stickers.
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:54 pm

If one were to purchase a used EV/plug-in from out of state, say an older model year like 2011 - 2016, I am curious if it will qualify for the new Red sticker, since technically, that car was never issued a CA sticker so far...I would think, it would qualify...


Probably a legit loophole in the new law's formulation...
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:02 pm

mihird wrote:If one were to purchase a used EV/plug-in from out of state, say an older model year like 2011 - 2016, I am curious if it will qualify for the new Red sticker, since technically, that car was never issued a CA sticker so far...I would think, it would qualify...

Probably a legit loophole in the new law's formulation...

Yes, it should per https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/fact-s ... air-decals:
If I buy a used eligible battery-electric, plug-in hybrid or fuel cell car, can I apply for a Clean Air Decal? When would that decal expire?

Used cars are eligible for a Clean Air Decal providing they have never previously had one. The expiration date of the decal is based on the application date for the decal, which is three full years plus the partial year.

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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:50 am

Last I checked, a few weeks ago at the beginning of June, CA DMV had not updated the form used to apply for an extension. There was no place where you could indicate the date of the original issue.

I purchased my 2017 Leaf at the very end of 2016, but the actual title shows beginning of 2017 and my HOV sticker was not issued until February 2017.

I suppose I could draft the form and hand write the original issue date (and HOV sticker number) and write in a request for an extension under the new law (or wait until the DMV updates the form which might be less complicated). I was planning to wait for the updated form as my current HOV Sticker is good until end of the year.

But yes, if the qualified vehicle has never been issued an HOV sticker before, sounds like it would be eligible for the new Red HOV Sticker good for 3 or 4 more years.

I just wish they had picked another color besides “RED”!
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Re: Red CAV sticker for used cars with white CAV stickers

Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:56 pm

lkkms2 wrote:I just wish they had picked another color besides “RED”!


I suspect they will be using other colors to indicate expiration, just like DMV does with the registration sticker on the rear license plate. Yellow (non-plug-in hybrid) expired some time ago. White and green at the end of this year. Red will expire at the end of 2021. As stickers issued after 2018 will be valid for 3 full years plus the remaining part of the last year, they'll need colors to designate expirations for Jan 1 of 2023, 2024, and 2025 (when current Federal law mandates solo HOV programs end). Assuming they'll use DMV's 5 color rotation for the reg stickers, they still have orange and blue to use up; I don't know what they'll do for the final year.
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