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CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Wed May 30, 2018 11:50 pm

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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Wed May 30, 2018 11:55 pm

Going through this list, Toyota stomped everyone else by a huge margin. Runner up was Honda.

Not a single US brand. :(
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Thu May 31, 2018 6:26 am

I believe the stat about the LEAF but comparing to other cars is an apples to oranges because of the huge difference in fleet average miles for each car. As one example, my LEAF has 29k miles after 5 years while my Prime has 23k after one year.
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Thu May 31, 2018 7:57 am

SageBrush wrote:I believe the stat about the LEAF but comparing to other cars is an apples to oranges because of the huge difference in fleet average miles for each car. As one example, my LEAF has 29k miles after 5 years while my Prime has 23k after one year.



Good point, my brother's Tundra has 170K and only a few minor repairs after 5 years.
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Thu May 31, 2018 10:02 pm

SageBrush wrote:I believe the stat about the LEAF but comparing to other cars is an apples to oranges because of the huge difference in fleet average miles for each car. As one example, my LEAF has 29k miles after 5 years while my Prime has 23k after one year.


True to a point. The linked post is a bit light on the details of CR's methodology driving their rankings on this. But as noted several times on this site, the Leaf in theory should be extremely reliable, especially when compared to ICEVs. Of course, not addressed is the 'maintenance costs' associated with replacing the degraded batteries. The article seems to focus on reliability, not economic viability over a long lifespan.
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Thu May 31, 2018 10:48 pm

DarthPuppy wrote:
SageBrush wrote:I believe the stat about the LEAF but comparing to other cars is an apples to oranges because of the huge difference in fleet average miles for each car. As one example, my LEAF has 29k miles after 5 years while my Prime has 23k after one year.


True to a point. The linked post is a bit light on the details of CR's methodology driving their rankings on this. But as noted several times on this site, the Leaf in theory should be extremely reliable, especially when compared to ICEVs.

True to a point ... because of wishful thinking.

Great post, Darth
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:09 am

I was looking to drive my 2011 for a long time because there were no issues except the traction battery in my hot climate. I hope to drive my 2015 for many more years since it only has 62,000 miles. Temperatures under the hood are much lower than other cars so the 12-volt battery lasts longer and hoses don't deteriorate as fast. There are no belts to replace, no oil changes, and brakes should last well over 100,000 miles even in city stop/go driving.
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:29 am

The Leaf may be good in reliability, but there are ways individual owners can get stuck.
For example the heater fuse is buried inside the car and not serviceable without
heroics https://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=23142
See pictures of that nasty repair at https://www.flickr.com/photos/10105026@ ... 1804352481

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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:12 am

DarthPuppy wrote:Going through this list, Toyota stomped everyone else by a huge margin. Runner up was Honda.

Not a single US brand. :(

Yet I've seen a brand new Toyota blow an engine within it's first year of ownership. While rare, things like this do happen.
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Re: CR: Leaf among most reliable cars of decade

Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:40 am

completely disagree as the 2013 Leaf i have with only 29k miles is a lemon with ongoing issues while on my private drive the other car is a Toyota RAV4 XT3 Petrol from 2005 with over 150k Miles with none issues...
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