warrenc
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Delivery Date: 28 Apr 2017
Leaf Number: 418438
Location: Tacoma,WA

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:32 pm

That's steep for an S model. Maybe even steep for an SV, IMHO. If they have your number, I would be surprised if you don't get a call in the near future.
2013 Leaf SV
Tacoma, WA

cwerdna
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Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:01 pm

Yeah, it is steep. For reference, https://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/cta ... _year=2015 is what prices look like in my area.

Nissan dealers tend to have higher markups than used car lots and the CPO part is adding to the price. Per http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... es-program, the only thing that gets extended is the EV system/powertrain warranty from the standard 5 years/60K miles.

'13 Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

Charviolon
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:39 pm
Delivery Date: 25 Jun 2018

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:49 pm

Yes, I was not a happy camper when the attempt to negotiate a purchase went south. A call from the dealership in the near future would be amusing, but if they are ready to deal, I will be happy to talk further. We shall see!

GerryAZ
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Delivery Date: 12 Jun 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:56 pm

After reading this whole thread, I recommend that you continue to look for a nice 2015 LEAF. Like the others, I am concerned about long-term reliability of a Tesla out of warranty. Your daily range needs are moderate so a 2015 Leaf would serve you well even after significant battery deterioration. I recommend an SV or SL to get the heat pump HVAC system. Pick whichever model has the features you want. If you get a 2015 SV or SL, there is no cost to have Nissan replace the original cellular modem with a 3G unit so that you can use remote access.
Gerry
Silver LEAF 2011 SL rear ended (totaled) by in-attentive driver 1/4/2015 at 50,422 miles
Silver LEAF 2015 SL purchased 2/7/2015

Charviolon
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Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:39 pm
Delivery Date: 25 Jun 2018

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:16 pm

Thanks for your replies. The 2015 Leaf S that I was interested in is a lovely car and in great cosmetic shape as well. Assuming this latest effort remains a dead end, and knowing that any kind of Leaf rarely shows up around here, how can one securely find other used Leaf models like the 2015 that are out of town? Is Carvana reputable and knowledgeable about EV's? What about Leafs in faraway dealerships? Can they deliver, and if so, can it be done economically?

LeftieBiker
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Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:54 pm

Carvana tends to ship Leafs from hot climates to cooler climates to sell. They tend to have more heat-related battery degradation. The problem with almost all long-distance sales is that you don't know the actual condition of the battery.
Scarlet Ember 2018 Leaf SL W/ Pro Pilot
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
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BillHolz
Posts: 85
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:32 am
Delivery Date: 07 May 2016
Leaf Number: 322345
Location: Norfolk, VA

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:48 am

I found my Leaf by extending my search on autotrader.com to something like 200 miles. At that range, I had several options including my 2015 SV with 428 miles and just over a month on all warranties for $13K. I borrowed a Leafspy setup from a guy at work, a truck from a friend, a car carrier from UHaul and went to check out the car. Leafspy did not show any issues so I bought it and brought it home on the car carrier. If you plan ahead by figuring out a route on plugshare.com, you can drive your new Leaf home with some stops along the way for charging.
2015 SV no QC

Charviolon
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:39 pm
Delivery Date: 25 Jun 2018

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:37 am

I can imagine that buying from a distance makes it difficult to know the state of the battery. Does Leafspy assess current battery capacity and other functions? With a few good buys coming out related to the 2018 Leaf, would that be a reasonable consideration new or used, or are most folks just holding out for the 2019 model if they are looking for a new car? What is the latest information about the '19's range? 200 or better? With the Bolt range at 238 miles now, you would think that Nissan would go for at least that, if not more, with their 60kwh battery pack.

goldbrick
Posts: 193
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:33 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Aug 2017
Leaf Number: 311806
Location: Colorado front range

Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:21 am

2019 will probably have a range > 200 miles. It's hard to say since it's not official yet but there are plenty of rumors and leaks.

LeafSpy will show the battery condition but you need to be able to physically plug in the OBDII dongle to use it. There is also the possibility that the car has been 'reset' which will fool LeafSpy until the car electronics re-adapt to the true battery condition. That is fairly unlikely but it's something to be aware of when buying a used Leaf regardless whether it is a remote transaction or not.

alozzy
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Location: Vancouver, BC
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:05 am

@Charviolon If you are considering new, then, in your shoes, I would wait until a couple of months after the 2019 comes out. That way, you'll have the option of buying a discounted 40 kWh 2018 or a 60 kWh 2019.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
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