ookoshi
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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:46 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
While it doesn't resume speeds as fast as I would like, it does resume speeds just barely fast enough to keep people behind you from honking :D


You live in Canada, don't you? Or maybe the nicer part of the Midwest? ;-)


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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:22 pm

Life moves more slowly in the Deep South.
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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:25 pm

I have the ICC feature on my 2018 SV (did not opt for the Tech package)...I drive in thick commuter SF traffic in office hour...I find the ICC pretty good. Sure, it is not able to react quick enough when someone cuts very closely...and it loses track of the car in front in sharp curves...a few handful of corner cases it cannot handle, but otherwise..for single lane stop and go traffic...it is a lifesaver...it has reduced by driving stress by more than 50%.

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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:28 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:In my two stints with PPA, I noticed the only way to make it somewhat acceptable was to change the follow distance to 1 in stop and go, then bump to 2 when traffic is flowing normally on streets with speed limit at 35 mph or less.

I tried leaving it at 1 and when traffic moved, my follow distance was uncomfortably close and speed was erratic. Leaving it at 2 allowed waaaay too much distance even when stopped. The big issue as I see it, is the system's weak or slow or complete inability to adjust the set parameters to the actual speed of the vehicle.


That is correct. You need to adjust the following distance to 1 in thick stop and go, 2 in 35-55mph driving..and 3 at 65mph+ driving...that is the best way to work with PPA.
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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:53 am

I find that 3 works fine at 45-55MPH. Remember the 'one car length for every 10MPH' rule.
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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:47 am

So I was behind a white pathfinder today and PPA slows the car down, pathfinder in front goes to complete stop, car brakes up to a point and then kind of lets the car creep up. close enough that I manually apply brakes. Is this normal? I tried it again with an accord in front of me and it was a lot more predictable

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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:28 am

dtam83 wrote:So I was behind a white pathfinder today and PPA slows the car down, pathfinder in front goes to complete stop, car brakes up to a point and then kind of lets the car creep up. close enough that I manually apply brakes. Is this normal? I tried it again with an accord in front of me and it was a lot more predictable


no. what was your follow setting?

What I remember is follow setting when stopped roughly correlates to car lengths so 1 is one car length, 2 is 2 car lengths, etc.
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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:23 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
dtam83 wrote:So I was behind a white pathfinder today and PPA slows the car down, pathfinder in front goes to complete stop, car brakes up to a point and then kind of lets the car creep up. close enough that I manually apply brakes. Is this normal? I tried it again with an accord in front of me and it was a lot more predictable


no. what was your follow setting?

What I remember is follow setting when stopped roughly correlates to car lengths so 1 is one car length, 2 is 2 car lengths, etc.


My setting was on 2 for both instances (navigator and pathfinder)

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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:01 pm

I'm loving the PPA. I have a 40 mile commute that takes just under an hour. I'm driving the car for about 10 minutes of that time. The rest of the time I just let the car drive itself with my knee resting lightly on the steering wheel. I know where along the route I need to take over and also have to manually stop at traffic lights if I'm not following anyone (almost learned that one the hard way). I do maintain vigilance but it's more like watching the road when I'm the shotgun passenger. This feature has completely change my feelings about this long distance commute.

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Re: Warning - Pro-Pilot Assist issues

Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:21 pm

Not having a hand on the wheel significantly increases your reaction time and makes a crash substantially more likely. You are being foolish and endangering others as well.
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