joeriv
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2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:00 pm

Found this review in my newsfeed:

https://www.slashgear.com/2018-nissan-leaf-versus-2018-hyundai-ioniq-electric-head-to-head-in-depth-02544195/

"Final Take

If you are in the market for a practical and affordable electric car, the 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric will serve you well. It comes with abundant standard features at a low base price – But if you desire an electric car that is meant to be driven, take a closer look at the 2018 Nissan Leaf – It offers more oomph from the more powerful motor and it can take you farther courtesy of the larger battery pack."

Worth reading the full review.
2017 Leaf S with QC, JUN mfg date

cwerdna
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:06 pm

Good luck getting an Ioniq Electric if you’re not in So Cal. My coworker (we’re in Nor Cal) looked into it a few months ago. He now has a Model 3.

The apparent supply and availability issues (for the US, seemingly So Cal only) are likely why US sales are puny. See https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/.

This is why I'm highly skeptical of all the Hyundai Kona buzz until it's known that it and other Hyundai/Kia BEVs are actually readily available in at least most of California instead of being virtual US vaporware.
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'13 Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
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'06 Prius

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

SageBrush
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:14 pm

The much higher highway efficiency of the Ioniq narrows the travel range: 151 miles for the LEAF and 124 miles for the Ioniq.
When new anyway. IIRC the Ioniq has a poor TMS and we know the LEAF does not have one at all.

Tough choice between two bad choices. If those were the only two cars in the EV universe I would choose the Ioniq if the range was adequate for my driving patterns but if at all possible I would wait for the Tesla Model 3 SR or consider a cheap Bolt. Spending $20k - $30k on a car with a poor battery is penny wise and pound foolish.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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specialgreen
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:02 pm

It's looking like there may be a competitive set of offerings with 50-60 kwh and TMS, around $35k (Bolt/'19 Leaf/Model 3 base). Of course, only the Bolt is available in that range today. There could be a market for a cheaper "city car" with less range. I could see someone pushing into the city-car market with a $25k offering for 30 kw-hrs + TMS; or $20k for 25 kw-hrs.

But the $35k offerings may be too compelling for manufacturers to bring new cars with sub-50kw-hrs and no TMS, unless there is a $10k price discount.

t1mman
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:54 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Ioniq does offer thermal management, right?

So, on the real long run (500+KM), the Ionique will get there quicker, since it doesn't suffer from the #rapidgate!

For most commute, the leaf is still better as it is more fun to drive, faster and mostly better finish(IMHO)

alozzy
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:00 pm

Yup, ironic that the IONIQ has less range on a single charge, but will do longer trips faster than the LEAF, due to full rate successive charges (thanks to its TMS).
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cwerdna
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:29 pm

To continue w/my reply (2nd post), frankly, there's little point in even talking about the Ioniq Electric unless you can actually get it in your area.

From https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/, sales continue to be puny. A whopping 21 were sold/leased in Aug 2018 in the US.

'13 Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

t1mman
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf Versus 2018 Hyundai Ioniq Electric

Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:21 am

I think in here (Canada/Quebec) you can get one pretty easily!

The Leafs are no where to be found, I've waited almost 3 months to get mine!

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