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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:54 pm

krush40 wrote:
alozzy wrote:If it's truly a 30 kWh packs, then it can't be a 2015 S - no such beast exists...

It could be a 2016 SV with a 30 kWh pack.

Post the VIN and we can figure that out...
1N4AZ0CP8FC324071


https://www.surfcitynissan.com/inventor ... p8fc324071
Alozzy is correct. There is no such thing as a 30 kWh Leaf prior to model year '16.
krush40 wrote: I tend to buy the middle trim level when car shopping. I like useful features, but don’t need to pay extra for wood trim or cosmetic type stuff.
S trim is the lowest trim, not middle. There is no "wood trim" fake or otherwise on any trim level of '15 Leaf.

Please refer to the specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit and http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit. Near the end of '16 model year, did Nissan quietly come out with an "S 30": https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... gher-price.

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:52 pm

krush40 wrote:I’m in Southern California so while I do use the heater in the morning during winter, it’s not exactly a concern.

I tend to buy the middle trim level when car shopping. I like useful features, but don’t need to pay extra for wood trim or cosmetic type stuff.
You should be fine with the S if your range needs are reasonable, but the SV has only better wheels as a "trim" or "cosmetic" upgrade over the S. Most of the differences are useful features.
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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:01 pm

Sorry for any confusion.

I meant to say I usually like to get the middle trim when car shopping because I like convenience features but typically find things in the top of the line to be “more form, less function” that I don’t need or want enough to pay for.

The question I meant to pose was would giving up the SV comforts be worth getting a bigger battery. But it appears that is probably a typo in the ad or a scam to get you in.

I have my current car for sale with a potential buyer coming tomorrow so I’m definitely on the prowl. Just need to make some decisions.

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:25 pm

krush40 wrote:Sorry for any confusion.

I meant to say I usually like to get the middle trim when car shopping because I like convenience features but typically find things in the top of the line to be “more form, less function” that I don’t need or want enough to pay for.

The question I meant to pose was would giving up the SV comforts be worth getting a bigger battery. But it appears that is probably a typo in the ad or a scam to get you in.
There is no such thing as a '15 model year Leaf w/30 kWh battery, on any trim. It was ALWAYS 24 kWh for all US '11 to '15 Leafs. And, as I said, for '16 S, yes, but only if it's a very late '16 "S 30", otherwise you need a '16 SV or SL for 30 kWh battery or a '17 of any trim.

Off the top of my head, on '15 S trim vs. '15 SV, you give up a ton like:
- nav system
- telematics (receiving plug-in reminders, charging stopped and done notifications via phone, being able to check charging status remotely and sending it commands remotely like start charging, climate control on/off, etc.)
- charging timer is a pain in the butt to set on the S and has less functionality
- clock isn't synced from GPS
- worse stereo
- if you want the light interior, you need to get an SV to choose that
- alloy wheels
- shiny plastics around the HVAC and stereo stack and shifter, and I think the doors (see interior pic at https://insideevs.com/real-world-test-2 ... eaf-range/, compare to interior pics at http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... kit/photos)
- ability to choose a better stereo (base SV/SL stereo vs. Bose as part of premium package) and the awesome 4 camera Around View Monitor
- ability to choose LED headlights
- hybrid heat pump heater (only on '13 to '17 SV and SL)

If the car turns out to be a '16 "S 30", well, per http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit Specs tab, the only trim w/rear heated seats is the SL. For '12 to '15, both the front and rear seats were heated on all trims.

Also, can you update your location info via your user name in the upper right > User Control Panel > Profile tab? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

Since you're in CA, do the CA HOV stickers matter? If so, hope you realize that the green and white HOV stickers expire 1/1/19 and those w/vehicles where the stickers were issued before 2017 CANNOT apply for new ones.

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:07 am

cwerdna wrote:Off the top of my head, on '15 S trim vs. '15 SV, you give up a ton like:
- nav system
- telematics (receiving plug-in reminders, charging stopped and done notifications via phone, being able to check charging status remotely and sending it commands remotely like start charging, climate control on/off, etc.)
- charging timer is a pain in the butt to set on the S and has less functionality
- clock isn't synced from GPS
- worse stereo
- if you want the light interior, you need to get an SV to choose that
- alloy wheels
- shiny plastics around the HVAC and stereo stack and shifter, and I think the doors (see interior pic at https://insideevs.com/real-world-test-2 ... eaf-range/, compare to interior pics at http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... kit/photos)
- ability to choose a better stereo (base SV/SL stereo vs. Bose as part of premium package) and the awesome 4 camera Around View Monitor
- ability to choose LED headlights
- hybrid heat pump heater (only on '13 to '17 SV and SL)
Thank you! It looks like the SV features will probably be worth it for me.
cwerdna wrote:If the car turns out to be a '16 "S 30", well, per http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit Specs tab, the only trim w/rear heated seats is the SL. For '12 to '15, both the front and rear seats were heated on all trims.
It's no longer listed on dealerships website, so we'll never know. I assume it was just a typo and it was just a 24/kwh S.
cwerdna wrote:Since you're in CA, do the CA HOV stickers matter? If so, hope you realize that the green and white HOV stickers expire 1/1/19 and those w/vehicles where the stickers were issued before 2017 CANNOT apply for new ones.
I was aware they do expire, but I wasn't sure of the exact details so thank you. In a perfect world I'd find what I wanted to buy from Carmax out of state and have them transfer it. But beggars can't be choosers and finding the right trim/battery condition out ways the carpool lane. Although getting carpool access would be fantastic.

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:35 am

krush40 wrote:
cwerdna wrote:Since you're in CA, do the CA HOV stickers matter? If so, hope you realize that the green and white HOV stickers expire 1/1/19 and those w/vehicles where the stickers were issued before 2017 CANNOT apply for new ones.
I was aware they do expire, but I wasn't sure of the exact details so thank you. In a perfect world I'd find what I wanted to buy from Carmax out of state and have them transfer it. But beggars can't be choosers and finding the right trim/battery condition out ways the carpool lane. Although getting carpool access would be fantastic.
If curious, more details at https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm and https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/fact-s ... air-decals.

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:09 am

I found a 2014 SL with 48k miles which seems to meet my needs.

Any reason to hold out for a 2015 or would a 2014 be a safe purchase?

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:21 am

krush40 wrote:I found a 2014 SL with 48k miles which seems to meet my needs.

Any reason to hold out for a 2015 or would a 2014 be a safe purchase?
Climate. If it's Hot where you are a 2015 would hold up better.
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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:49 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Climate. If it's Hot where you are a 2015 would hold up better.

It depends on what you consider hot, but I do live in Southern California near Disneyland. For the most part it will be parked inside while I'm at work and at home, but during the summer it can get easily be in the 90s with a few stretches here or there in the 100s.

As for winter, it rains every once in a while but never gets anything close to snow, at least not by me.

My gut says wait for a 2015, but this particular one is from Washington through Carmax which would give me a full three years of carpool access. :D

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Re: 2013 with low miles or 2015 with high miles?

Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:19 pm

Is it normal for a 2015 SL with 30,000 miles to have 11 bars? Also, what is the normal expected bar loss rate?

Thanks!

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