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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:38 pm

Marktm wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:25 pm
Anyone seen an update later than this on Fenix Power?
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/07/22/wi ... e-a-tesla/
Just the emails they send me.

The last one was on August 7th saying that they went international with their reservations.

They also sent an update on the 27th of July saying that they are on track for a couple dozen test installs by the end of 2019 and plan to complete several hundred installs in the first quarter 2020.

You can sign up to get info from them I believe, I still receive updates because I used to have a battery reservation before I decided to trade up to a 2018. John seems like a good guy, I spoke with him for about an hour on the phone when I cancelled and he seemed genuinely interested in my thoughts.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:27 am

This chineese company (and probably others) are selling powerful battery packs for cars:
https://lithiumbattery.en.made-in-china ... log-1.html

They seem to offer high voltages and AHs (some options up to 30kwh), suitable for electric cars. And they are based on the resilient LiFePo chemistry. Prices probably low, that's not very clear.

Anyone has experience with those? I foresee some challanges: phisical fit in the leaf, bms interfacing, ...

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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:51 am

LiFePo4 has a substantially lower energy density, so a 30kwh pack isn't going to be a shoe-in fit for a Leaf. At best some cargo area would likely be lost.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:07 am

LiFePo has improved a lot in energy density (they are aproaching 200wh/kg, as far as i know).
Much better than my 2013 leaf.
And safer, and more durable. Not too bad.

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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:21 am

Marktm wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:25 pm
Anyone seen an update later than this on Fenix Power?
That whole section under "Charging Services" is a complicated solution to a mostly non-problem. I can't imagine anyone really using that.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:21 am

jlv wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:21 am

That whole section under "Charging Services" is a complicated solution to a mostly non-problem. I can't imagine anyone really using that.
I actually agree - why would Fenix Power use any resources to resolve a non-problem when I'm sure they have many that need resolving - it actually worried me that they may be losing focus (unless it was for capital infusion).
I'm also worried that there has been no updates on this forum since I'd believe that many of Fenix's signed-on customers use this forum for needed information.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:15 pm

Marktm wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:21 am
jlv wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:21 am

That whole section under "Charging Services" is a complicated solution to a mostly non-problem. I can't imagine anyone really using that.
I actually agree - why would Fenix Power use any resources to resolve a non-problem when I'm sure they have many that need resolving - it actually worried me that they may be losing focus (unless it was for capital infusion).
I'm also worried that there has been no updates on this forum since I'd believe that many of Fenix's signed-on customers use this forum for needed information.
I read it as an attempt to keep the company in the news and to give a veneer of legitimacy. If no progress is being make on vapour 1.0, let's talk about vapour 2.0 !
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