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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:03 pm

iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:59 pm
Go on, keep spinning. You are still wrong as when you said it. The numbers stand on their own. You said base model, not me. The base model was $35k, but you knew that.

Has nothing to do what I meant. I meant nothing. It’s what you said. Keep the spin coming.
Which trim was the "base" model? The standard range or standard range plus?
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm

Don’t ask me, you said base. Base is cheapest model available. It was $35k when you bought you car. But you new that.

So you are saying now by base model, you meant not base model? Hmmm, makes sense.

Keep trying with those goalposts!
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:08 pm

iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm
Don’t ask me, you said base. Base is cheapest model available. It was $35k when you bought you car. But you new that. Keep trying with those goalposts!
I'm asking because you know everything. Which was the base model? The standard range or standard range plus?
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:10 pm

You said “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You want to redefine base model? This should be interesting.
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:12 pm

iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:10 pm
You said “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You want to redefine base model?
And then I explained what I had priced out.

I'm asking what is the base model? Do we agree it was the standard range not standard range plus?
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:14 pm

danrjones wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:12 pm
iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:10 pm
You said “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You want to redefine base model?
And then I explained what I had priced out.

I'm asking what is the base model? Do we agree it was the standard range not standard range plus?
No one cares what you priced out, only your false claims: “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You know by definition, the cheapest lowest end vehicle a company offers on a model is the base model. You also knew that was the black standard range at $35k.

It's not up for you or me or anyone to change the definition of base model. Keep those goal posts moving!
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:19 pm

This may just be the immense imprecision of the current version of the language at work. It's why we need to be able to communicate clearly and with reasonable precision. Please drop the argument about the argument, folks. Both sides' positions are clear enough.
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:20 pm

Agree.
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:20 pm

iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:14 pm
danrjones wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:12 pm
iPlug wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:10 pm
You said “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You want to redefine base model?
And then I explained what I had priced out.

I'm asking what is the base model? Do we agree it was the standard range not standard range plus?
No one cares what you priced out, only your false claims: “Even the base model 3 would have been significantly more than double what I paid for a new leaf."

You know by definition, the cheapest lowest end vehicle a company offers on a model is the base model. You also knew that was the black standard range at $35k.

You are not allowed to make up your own physics or definitions. Keep those goal posts moving!
Exactly, it's the bottom trim with no options.
And when you questioned me I realized I had options I had priced out, said so (multiple times), even went back and fixed the post to include the options.

So what are we arguing about? I have amended my statement to be perfectly correct. I have corrected the error you pointed out. What is it you want?
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Re: HELP deciding whether to buy a Leaf Plus

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:21 pm

Let's please not edit posts that change the entire argument and the rest of posts that follow. Sorry to give you a hard time, we both probably have better things to do. Suspect you are an advocate for the BEV community at large. Cheers.
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