DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:35 pm

jbuntz wrote:
Overheatingleaf wrote:Just got done with the QC. I think there's a problem with my Bluetooth adapter. It kept disconnecting, and I'd have to pull it out and put it back in to get it to connect again. But I think it has the relevant information, maybe just ignore the first few minutes of the charge.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6zd9B6oApT2RxC389


To me it looks like the charge drops quickly after start.


trying to decipher those graphs in portrait mode is making it rather tough. Based on your degradation, I would have to say it looks nearly normal.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:57 am

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Here getting the battery reprogram for my 2016 S30.
2015 SV LED + Quickcharge returned
2016 S 30kWh Mfg 9/16 82.34 AHr 4 miles. 5/18 69.71 AHr SOH 87.71 20618 mi
after PC6300 AHr 74.70 SOH 93.98 (94.24 SOH 10 days later)

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:07 am

EVforRobert wrote:Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Here getting the battery reprogram for my 2016 S30.


Despite the possible "negative" consequences of getting this done, I still HIGHLY recommend it. Without it, your BMS is not flying blind. Its flying blind while receiving verbal instructions from a blind person. There can be no good from that.

I will say I LOVED the fact I could QC my S30 to 93-94% in 30 mins due to the high ramp down. Yeah the pack got warm, but it really saved me during the work day when longer stints on the charger were simply not possible. Now, when was I due to "pay the man?"

Dk...but it apparently was sometime after the 29,413 miles I put on the car before she was killed.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:38 am

EVforRobert wrote:Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Here getting the battery reprogram for my 2016 S30.


Look forward to your after-update experience report. So far those that had the update done and have commented on it have all reported very positive experiences.
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:29 pm

As you can see in my signature the numbers have changed significantly after reprogramming. SOH is back up to 93.98%. I am at 55% SOC so not going to charge it yet.

When I first got the vehicle I did a trip to Monterey Bay Aquarium and afterwards to Salinas Nob Hill Foods DCFC. Total was 107 miles with 21 miles left on GOM on the brand new battery. If I have time I wish to replicate my original drive to see if I make it.
2015 SV LED + Quickcharge returned
2016 S 30kWh Mfg 9/16 82.34 AHr 4 miles. 5/18 69.71 AHr SOH 87.71 20618 mi
after PC6300 AHr 74.70 SOH 93.98 (94.24 SOH 10 days later)

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:21 pm

EVforRobert wrote:As you can see in my signature the numbers have changed significantly after reprogramming. SOH is back up to 93.98%. I am at 55% SOC so not going to charge it yet.

When I first got the vehicle I did a trip to Monterey Bay Aquarium and afterwards to Salinas Nob Hill Foods DCFC. Total was 107 miles with 21 miles left on GOM on the brand new battery. If I have time I wish to replicate my original drive to see if I make it.


Since a BMS reset is part of the process, it will take a bit to normalize readings.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:49 pm

I'm pretty stoked about the software update, my 2016 30X Leaf has lost a bar and I'm looking at some pretty depressing LeafSpy stats, such as 82% SOH with only 13K miles.

Please keep those updates rolling in :)

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:50 am

Had the update done on Friday to my 2016 SV. SOH went from 90.18% to 95.55%. GOM showed 131 miles after a full charge (whereas 114-121 is more typical for my driving patterns). AHr jumped from 71.675 to 75.943.

Curiously, HX unaffected and is still dropping; currently 83.87. (SOH also dropping similarly).
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:23 pm

gshepherd wrote:Had the update done on Friday to my 2016 SV. SOH went from 90.18% to 95.55%. GOM showed 131 miles after a full charge (whereas 114-121 is more typical for my driving patterns). AHr jumped from 71.675 to 75.943.

Curiously, HX unaffected and is still dropping; currently 83.87. (SOH also dropping similarly).
hx is very low. Try a QC from a low charge.
Mfg 11/15 Del 12/16 TX 2016 SL 30kWh,
Date Bar MI GID Ahr SOH
05/17 12 05175 324 70.75 89
08/17 11 09245 282 61.68 77
10/17 10 12000 260 57.22 71
01/18 09 15329 244 53.72 68
06/20 08 21716 230 50.41 63
06/27 11 22047 296 66.01 83 Aftr Updt

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:58 am

gshepherd wrote:Had the update done on Friday to my 2016 SV. SOH went from 90.18% to 95.55%. GOM showed 131 miles after a full charge (whereas 114-121 is more typical for my driving patterns). AHr jumped from 71.675 to 75.943.

Curiously, HX unaffected and is still dropping; currently 83.87. (SOH also dropping similarly).


I would check daily or some sort of fairly frequent intervals for 30 days and report the differences.
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