Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:01 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
My sister has. She bought a used 2016 with 4 bars lost back in early July (I encouraged her to, with the expectation that she'd get a new battery before the warranty expired). Got the BMS updated near the end of July, which only restored 3 of the 4 bars. She was seeing much improved range (from what it was at 4 bars down). Then in mid August, she lost her 2nd bar. Will need to take a leafSpy reading to see when we can expect to see the 3rd bar to disappear.

I'd be very interested to hear the results on that. Also, any estimates on how much her range improved. In any case, with two bars down already she should qualify for a replacement battery soon. two bars down should put her at 73-75% SOH. She only needs to lose 10% more to qualify for a new battery and has 5 years to do it.


Interestingly enough, she's at 77.73% SOH

@ SOC 56.3% - 61.78 AHr, 369.80V, 51.06% Hx

She told me that she recently changed her charging behaviour (used to QC near starbucks every other day), so that SOH might've gone up these past few weeks.
:: Model 3 LR :: acquired 9 May '18
:: Leaf S30 :: build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
Date - Miles / GIDs:
May '17 - 7300 mi / 363
Feb '18 - 20.5k mi / 333

johnlocke
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Leaf Number: 300582

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:27 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
johnlocke wrote:
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:

I'd be very interested to hear the results on that. Also, any estimates on how much her range improved. In any case, with two bars down already she should qualify for a replacement battery soon. two bars down should put her at 73-75% SOH. She only needs to lose 10% more to qualify for a new battery and has 5 years to do it.


Interestingly enough, she's at 77.73% SOH

@ SOC 56.3% - 61.78 AHr, 369.80V, 51.06% Hx

She told me that she recently changed her charging behaviour (used to QC near starbucks every other day), so that SOH might've gone up these past few weeks.

If she was only QC'ing before, the battery wouldn't have time to balance the cells. I'd advise her to to do a level 2 at least once a week just to balance the battery. If she's now at 77.73%, did she get the second bar back?
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

Oils4AsphaultOnly
Posts: 441
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm
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Leaf Number: 313890
Location: Arcadia, CA

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:34 am

johnlocke wrote:
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
johnlocke wrote:I'd be very interested to hear the results on that. Also, any estimates on how much her range improved. In any case, with two bars down already she should qualify for a replacement battery soon. two bars down should put her at 73-75% SOH. She only needs to lose 10% more to qualify for a new battery and has 5 years to do it.


Interestingly enough, she's at 77.73% SOH

@ SOC 56.3% - 61.78 AHr, 369.80V, 51.06% Hx

She told me that she recently changed her charging behaviour (used to QC near starbucks every other day), so that SOH might've gone up these past few weeks.

If she was only QC'ing before, the battery wouldn't have time to balance the cells. I'd advise her to to do a level 2 at least once a week just to balance the battery. If she's now at 77.73%, did she get the second bar back?


Nope, second bar is still gone.

Edit: I helped her install a L5-20 (240v) circuit last month, so she's been charging L2 exclusively since then. She drives 60 miles daily, but in traffic, so ends up with 30% remaining charge.
:: Model 3 LR :: acquired 9 May '18
:: Leaf S30 :: build date: Sep '16 :: purchased: Nov '16
Date - Miles / GIDs:
May '17 - 7300 mi / 363
Feb '18 - 20.5k mi / 333

EVforRobert
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Delivery Date: 25 Sep 2015
Location: SF Bay Area

Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:22 pm

Looks like the battery is close to its original range at 23,000 miles.
Drove from full charge on L2 to 10% SOC Leaf Spy 106 miles. 36 mile trip in the afternoon. 4.1 mi/kWh on a 70 mile airport run in the evening with the defroster on. Three people and luggage to go and just me back.
It is a black car and never garaged with brand new OEM Ecopia tires set to door sticker pressures.
When I do the run again in reverse I will clean the windows so the defroster won’t be needed and will add some more PSI and see if I do better.
2015 SV LED + Quickcharge returned
2016 S 30kWh Mfg 9/16 82.34 AHr 4 miles. 5/18 69.71 AHr SOH 87.71 20618 mi
after PC6300 AHr 74.70 SOH 93.98 (94.24 SOH 10 days later)

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