garsh
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:20 pm

mwalsh wrote:$12 aftermarket (Febest) part any better for you?
http://www.amazon.com/54613-Jd04A-54613 ... B00HCORMZS

Thanks mwalsh! Parts ordered. It's worth a try.
Next I'll need to learn how to replace the bushing. :)
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garsh
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:31 am

Looks like this job is too involved for me.
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This picture shows the subframe (called the "front suspension member" in the service manual) & the steering rack. The stabilizer bar bushing mounts to the top of the subframe. It can be partially seen in that small gap between the frame & the steering rack.

According to the service manual, removal of the sway bar requires removing that subframe. That means holding up the traction motor while you remove the motor mounts. I was hoping that less would be necessary to just replace the bushing, but I just can't see how to get up in there without dropping the frame.
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garsh
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:46 am

For those that have had the dealership do the work - any idea how much it would cost out of warranty?
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elmobob
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:08 am

Levenkay wrote: "VERIFIED CONCERN OF CREAK/SQUEAK NOISE OVER BUMPS AT LOWER SPEEDS. ISOLATED NOISE TO SWAY BAR BUSHINGS, REPLACED BOTH SWAY BAR BUSHINGS AND ROAD TESTED THE SAME AGAIN. VERIFIED NOISE NO LONGER HEARD ON ROAD TEST AFTER REPAIR"


After having this issue with my leaf since new for 3 years and taking it twice to the dealer without them being to repair it, I printed your quote from this forum, asked to speak to the "hybrid mechanic" and handed it over to him. left the car at the dealer for a day and he ordered and replaced the stabilizer bar bushings and issue is resolved!!!. THANKS to Levenkay. I'm including an image to the workorder with details listed.

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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:19 pm

garsh wrote:For those that have had the dealership do the work - any idea how much it would cost out of warranty?

My dealer quoted about $300 in labor to swap the bushings. They couldn't reproduce the noise (it was pretty warm when they had it), so I didn't bother getting it done. I think I'll have them look at it again before next winter.
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:42 pm

Has anyone seen or inspected the old sway bar bushings or been given information by the service department on how they are failing?
Is the material becoming brittle in cold weather and the surface of the bushing is becoming rough causing the noise?
If the replacements are the same won't they fail again in less than three years in cold climate?
Seems like the root cause of the problem should be corrected with bushings made of a better material.

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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:21 pm

my 2012 with 4800 miles on it (last september) made teh same scrunching noise on bumps and any significant "drop" such as a drive way that produces the same suspension "dip" as a speed bump does.

Sounded like a bushing to me so I am not worried about it. I have a feeling it is "one of those noises" that is likely common but we as leaf owners NOTICE it because of how quiet the car is otherwise. IE others do it but can't hear it over the engine noise.

is there an upgraded part aftermarket made of better material for this part? figure if I ever do replace it might as well upgrade it. otherwise not a huge concern to me.

it never does it when it is warmer (over 25-30' f) only when it is really cold.
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:30 pm

My 2011's front end was very noisy going over speed bumps. Diagnosed with sway bar bushings worn out.
Was quoted $665 CDN for repair. Part is only $11, rest was labour. Nice and quiet now.
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garsh
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:53 am

Lon12 wrote:My 2011's front end was very noisy going over speed bumps. Diagnosed with sway bar bushings worn out.
Was quoted $665 CDN for repair. Part is only $11, rest was labour. Nice and quiet now.
I have the same issue. I bought the new bushings, then I looked in the service manual for how to replace it. It requires disconnecting much of the front end suspension and dropping the entire motor out of the car! So, I'm just going to live with it until my Model 3 gets here.
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Re: Low temperature front end noise?

Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:33 am

I bought my 2015 leaf used in 2018 from a nissan dealership. Would this be covered under warranty now?

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