cwerdna
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:45 am

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan. ... 997219033/ has a pic of a 5 bar loser at 89,889 miles. The driver says it's model year 2013. His profile says he lives in Chandler, AZ.

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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:31 pm

cwerdna wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/nissan.leaf.owners.group/permalink/1828517997219033/ has a pic of a 5 bar loser at 89,889 miles. The driver says it's model year 2013. His profile says he lives in Chandler, AZ.


Saw that. wondering why he waited? Guessing his 4th bar loss was well beyond the 60,000 miles?
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:01 am

My 5 year battery warranty is up today. No 4th bar drop....too bad Nissan didn't extend their "goodwill" program to the 2013 models or later. I guess I will just need to live with the limited range. Good luck to all the other Leaf owners out there who decided to purchase instead of lease. Dwindling battery range will be a challenge but I can make it work.

Watch my fourth bar drop this month...
2013 Leaf
9 of 12 bars remaining (waiting for that 4th bar drop)
manufacture date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 44.83 (all updated 2/1/2018)
SOH 68%
Hx 61.85%
35k on ODO
194 GIDs on full charge

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:52 am

Nissan consumer affairs called me regarding the email I sent. Basically no help... The only suggestion the lady has was to go to a Nissan dealership and see what their financing department can offer for a new battery.

Spending $5k on a new battery for 30% more capacity seems a bit silly.

I will just hang onto the Leaf as it is. Limited range but charging at work and home will be fine for now.

Good luck to all you other Leafers out there. Doubtful any other owners will get assistance from Nissan going forward on their "goodwill program". Treating the 2011 and 2012 owners with respect and offering to pay for a new battery with 10%-20% out of pocket for early adopters was great for those who took the offer. 2013 owners don't receive anything other than a suggestion to get a new battery financed...

Thanks again Nissan for the dedication to your customers.

I am in line for a Sondors. I hope the Sondors enters into production and isn't in limbo like the Elio...

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/05/son ... est-drive/
2013 Leaf
9 of 12 bars remaining (waiting for that 4th bar drop)
manufacture date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 44.83 (all updated 2/1/2018)
SOH 68%
Hx 61.85%
35k on ODO
194 GIDs on full charge

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:27 am

SeasonsAfter wrote:I am in line for a Sondors. I hope the Sondors enters into production and isn't in limbo like the Elio...

Ya. I hear you. But I don't think we can get our hopes up for such cars soon. A lot of things in the EV world has either been a flop or too expensive because it's still in its early stages. I haven't had as many bar losses as others (only one bar lost not too long ago) but I would like to go farther in an EV without having to rob Fort Knox. In five years from now maybe we'll be able to pick up a used Tesla 3 for cheap.
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:23 am

Thanks for the reply, I totally agree with you. EV market is exploding and battery technology is getting much better. It is great not paying for gas and I am sure there will be many options out there without paying too much very soon.

I figure I can run my Leaf for another three years. At that point, I am sure there will be plenty of options in the market at a very affordable price. Tesla might be an option but it seems way expensive for their top tier models. Some state the build quality isn't up to par but who knows.

Early Nissan Leaf adopters leaves me a bit annoyed. 2011 and 2012 models received a goodwill program to replace the battery costs. Now they are turning their back on the early adopters by not helping in anyway for a new battery replacement for the 2013 models. Good work Nissan...
2013 Leaf
9 of 12 bars remaining (waiting for that 4th bar drop)
manufacture date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 44.83 (all updated 2/1/2018)
SOH 68%
Hx 61.85%
35k on ODO
194 GIDs on full charge

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:24 am

Nissan starts exchange program in Japan. At 300,000 yen ($2,853), this might be a good deal for the older Nissan Leaf owners.

https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-re ... ies-japan/
2013 Leaf
9 of 12 bars remaining (waiting for that 4th bar drop)
manufacture date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 44.83 (all updated 2/1/2018)
SOH 68%
Hx 61.85%
35k on ODO
194 GIDs on full charge

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:19 am

Check out the comments at the end this article. Good information from other Leaf owners. I am glad my old 24 kwh pack isn't degrading as much as the newer packs...

https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-30-kw ... -kwh-pack/
2013 Leaf
9 of 12 bars remaining (waiting for that 4th bar drop)
manufacture date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 44.83 (all updated 2/1/2018)
SOH 68%
Hx 61.85%
35k on ODO
194 GIDs on full charge

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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:23 pm

SeasonsAfter wrote:Check out the comments at the end this article. Good information from other Leaf owners. I am glad my old 24 kwh pack isn't degrading as much as the newer packs...

https://insideevs.com/nissan-leaf-30-kw ... -kwh-pack/


Let’s hope Nissan has rectified this with the new 40-kWh LEAF


What can really magically change? The Lizard pack was just a marginal improvement if any at all given they changed capacity bar loss points. The 30 kWh pack is a total disaster. Is the 40 kWh pack any better? Who knows, I'll check in after 2 years.
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-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
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bwatl
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Re: 2013-2014 bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:52 am

bwatl wrote:I bought a used 2013 Leaf SL with a build date of March 2013. It had 10,584 miles when I purchased it in October 2016. I lost the first capacity bar about a month after purchase with 12,576 miles. I lost the 2nd bar on June 14, 2017 with 22,455 miles. I just recently lost the 3rd capacity bar around 28,300 miles in November 2017. What date will Nissan use for the battery warranty? According to the Carfax report, it arrived to a dealer in Grapevine, TX on March 26, 2013 and was sold to the first owner on May 28, 2013. Do I have until the end of May 2018 to hopefully lose the 4th bar?


Current Leaf Spy readings:
AHr=46.71
SOH= 71%
Hx= 64.72%
39 QCs
2839 L1/L2s


Still hoping for that 4th bar drop. Being unseasonably cold in ATL isn't helping. I also lost a month of driving when my Leaf was damaged at the dealership and it took them a month to fix. it. :evil: I still have until the end of May. Currently stats:

AHr - 45.63
SOH - 69%
Hx - 63.09%
45 QCs
31322 L1/L2s
32,662 miles

It's not pleasant to see the numbers increase sometimes.....

3/25/2018
Ahr - 46.92
SOH - 71%
HX - 65.04%
45 QCs
3147 L1/L2s
32,885 miles
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