loomis2
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 1:28 pm

I don't pay much attention to tires, I just know that at almost 65,000 miles on my 2013 sv the stock tires are due for replacement. I take it to the dealer every year for it's yearly checkup and every year they say the tires are still good so it's not like I am abusing the car and running on bald tires. However, after reading this thread I was surprised to see my tires are the Michelin Energy Saver a/s tires and not the Ecobee's. After reading the posts here I think I may want to change to the Ecobee Plus tires, but 65,000 miles seems pretty good so I wonder if the Ecobee's will hold up as well as the Energy Saver's have.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Ecobees...? I assume you mean Ecopias?
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loomis2
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 3:16 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Ecobees...? I assume you mean Ecopias?


Yes, because I am a moron. I only just read Ecopia about 1000 times. I don't even know where Ecobee came from.
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 3:18 pm

That's ok. The aftermarket version of the Ecopia is much better than the cheapened OEM version.
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Lothsahn
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 3:46 pm

Running Purecontacts. Taken a hit on the range but the winter traction is much better. Very happy with them.
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Wed May 15, 2019 7:15 pm

In my opinion, the Ecopia Plus is a much better tire than the OEM Michelin Energy Saver--better range and much better wet braking traction. I ran one set of Continental tires that performed well at first, but wet braking traction dropped as mileage accumulated. They also dropped the range by about 15% so I switched to Ecopias and am happy with them. The OEM Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires were the worst radial tires I have owned--bald at less than 30,000 miles and severe sidewall cracking in less than 2 years in my climate. My 2011 came with 16-inch OEM Ecopias that were OK, but not as good as the Ecopia Plus.
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Lothsahn
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Thu May 16, 2019 6:46 am

GerryAZ wrote:In my opinion, the Ecopia Plus is a much better tire than the OEM Michelin Energy Saver--better range and much better wet braking traction. I ran one set of Continental tires that performed well at first, but wet braking traction dropped as mileage accumulated. They also dropped the range by about 15% so I switched to Ecopias and am happy with them. The OEM Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires were the worst radial tires I have owned--bald at less than 30,000 miles and severe sidewall cracking in less than 2 years in my climate. My 2011 came with 16-inch OEM Ecopias that were OK, but not as good as the Ecopia Plus.


How do the Ecopia pluses do on snow and ice?
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Thu May 16, 2019 6:53 am

I have put 60K miles on my car with the original Ecopia tires. I got 40K out of the first set, and the 2nd set are still at 7mm.

Remember that this is just a commuting car.

I suggest staying with stock because you know them, and they are cheap. Any other tire may be a mistake, or lower your range significantly..

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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Thu May 16, 2019 7:25 am

For what it's worth our stock Ecopia's (not plus versions) ran 14,100 before they were to the wear bar on all 4 tires with rotations at about 4k. I switched to Michelin Energy Savers that ran 33,800. I also swapped our VW Jetta to Ecopia Plus 422 and have 20,000 on them now and look about half way done so I went back to Ecopia Plus for the Leaf last summer and after 11,000 miles I am almost to the wear bars again. I have checked several times and they do say Plus and 422 on them and look identical to the ones on our VW, but they obviously are not.

So this really has done it for me for Bridgestone, marking a tire as a Plus 422 but it is not, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, I am done with Bridgestones for good. I should add I rotate them every 3-4k and we also had Blizzacks snows that lasted 23,500 miles and now Michelin x-ice snows that now have over 10k and look FAR better than the Ecopia's.

Maybe it is just me and my bad luck.
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Lothsahn
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Re: Recommended replacement tire

Thu May 16, 2019 10:33 am

BrockWI wrote:For what it's worth our stock Ecopia's (not plus versions) ran 14,100 before they were to the wear bar on all 4 tires with rotations at about 4k. I switched to Michelin Energy Savers that ran 33,800. I also swapped our VW Jetta to Ecopia Plus 422 and have 20,000 on them now and look about half way done so I went back to Ecopia Plus for the Leaf last summer and after 11,000 miles I am almost to the wear bars again. I have checked several times and they do say Plus and 422 on them and look identical to the ones on our VW, but they obviously are not.

So this really has done it for me for Bridgestone, marking a tire as a Plus 422 but it is not, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, I am done with Bridgestones for good. I should add I rotate them every 3-4k and we also had Blizzacks snows that lasted 23,500 miles and now Michelin x-ice snows that now have over 10k and look FAR better than the Ecopia's.

Maybe it is just me and my bad luck.


What PSI do you run?
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Battery swap 2019/04/24 (87% SOH, 12 bar)

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