Joshuac0711
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:47 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2016
Leaf Number: 047700

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:35 pm

That's correct! I reset the codes and disconnect the battery for 10 minutes... again after 2 exact minutes of connect the charger..... the charger disconnects,

As I said the car battery does never reach 14.4 volts, is there a way to fix the D.C.-D.C. Charger?

I think that since the car monitor that the local battery never goes up to 14.4 volts the car Disconnect the main charger....

What other option do I have?

User avatar
DuncanCunningham
Forum Supporter
Posts: 437
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:02 am
Delivery Date: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Bountiful, UT

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:48 pm

Do you have any timers set in the nav screen? Or in the menus? Clear any. Is your car charger on a good circuit? Good Earth/ground? Could it be the supply?
Statler: Wake up you old fool. You slept through the show.
Waldorf: Who's a fool? You watched it.

2015 Leaf S (leased until May 2018, Bought out in Jan 2017)
2012 Leaf SL (purchased May 2015)

Joshuac0711
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:47 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2016
Leaf Number: 047700

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:09 pm

Not timers stored at all, the ground of the charger are ok, I have other 4 chargers and the problem it's the same of each, I test this unit with another leaf and env-200 (nissan) and works fine!

User avatar
DuncanCunningham
Forum Supporter
Posts: 437
Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:02 am
Delivery Date: 15 Apr 2015
Location: Bountiful, UT

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:11 pm

You need a professionally trained leaf technical person to look at it. Unless anyone else has any ideas?
Statler: Wake up you old fool. You slept through the show.
Waldorf: Who's a fool? You watched it.

2015 Leaf S (leased until May 2018, Bought out in Jan 2017)
2012 Leaf SL (purchased May 2015)

Joshuac0711
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:47 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2016
Leaf Number: 047700

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:14 pm

Here in my country does not have support for leaf, do you know where can I request in USA, or where I can find specialized trained technician?

User avatar
FalconFour
Gold Member
Posts: 320
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:07 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Sep 2012
Leaf Number: 008681
Location: San Jose, CA
Contact: Website Facebook

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:43 pm

Yeah, this is shaping up to be a case of either a bad charger or a disconnected line. Earlier, you posted the DTCs that come from the car, here:

P3177
P3171
P3170
P316C and
B26C1


Is that still right? I'll break them down here. These codes seem to be for a 2013+ model LEAF, so this is from the 2013 info:
P3177 - ECU ACTIVATION ERROR (EV system start error) - looks like a general error. Any system can be a cause.
P3171 - PD MODULE SYSTEM (Power Delivery module system) - This is a general error saying that the PDM has an error in its system.
P3170 - Also PD MODULE SYSTEM - general error.
P316C - Has some interesting info, but also seems like a general error. It ties in with P3177.
B26C1 - I spent a very long time trying to figure this one out, but couldn't find it anywhere in the manuals or online. However, if it's B29C1 (see below), then it refers to a whole host of EVSE (charging station, not internal) errors. In fact, this is where the story gets good... because the symptoms you describe are similar to how the Leaf behaves when it's not able to properly start charging normally due to external factors - for example, if I have an AC line of an EVSE disconnected, yet the EVSE keeps signalling "you can charge, go ahead", the car will stop after 2 minutes and set a similar set of faults.

Now, here's where it gets good. Assuming that the B26C1 DTC is really B29C1, then Nissan has a present for you.
http://x.nissanhelp.com/forums/local_li ... &catid=783 (you have to register for a free forum account there to get the "save" button on that page)

That service bulletin nails your symptoms to a "T". You've got the codes, and the symptoms, that they describe there.
IF YOU CONFIRM:
The customer states the HV battery charger of an applied vehicle will not charge or will not complete charging
AND
The EV warning light is on and all of the following DTCs are found stored:
• P316C, P3170, P3171, and B29C1
NOTE: CONSULT III plus must display B29C1 with malfunction type “EVSE no signal” or “EVSE invalid signal”.
ACTION:
...


The only question is, do you have anyone around with a "CONSULT III Plus" unit? I'd imagine that pretty much anyone that works professionally with Nissan cars should have one... not a shade-tree mechanic that works on carburetors, but one that isn't afraid of a Nissan made in the past decade. They should be able to follow the directions right out of that bulletin and apply the fix.
100% gas-free since September 2012
2011 LEAF SL - Sep 2012~Sep 2014 - 35,737 miles
2013 LEAF S+Charge - Jan 2014-Feb 2017 - 68,065 miles
2014 LEAF SV+Premium+QC - Feb 2017-present

User avatar
FalconFour
Gold Member
Posts: 320
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:07 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Sep 2012
Leaf Number: 008681
Location: San Jose, CA
Contact: Website Facebook

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:04 am

Tiniest bit more info, worthy of its own reply.

This seems to have come up a few times... provided that B29C1 is really the correct code (are you able to double check, maybe a typo?)... then this is seeming very much like a software-fixable problem.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12813 - in this thread, the guy went around the block a few times with replacements by the dealer. This isn't a road available for you to go down, so of course, we need to nail it right the first time. ;)

viewtopic.php?t=17078 - this one wasn't really resolved as the OP never came back to update on what happened... but I guess that could be a good sign?

Hopefully these help get your issue fixed :mrgreen:
100% gas-free since September 2012
2011 LEAF SL - Sep 2012~Sep 2014 - 35,737 miles
2013 LEAF S+Charge - Jan 2014-Feb 2017 - 68,065 miles
2014 LEAF SV+Premium+QC - Feb 2017-present

silverone
Posts: 89
Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:29 pm
Delivery Date: 03 Jan 2017
Location: Eastern OH

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:47 am

Many of us are making assumptions, but just to clear the supply side as a potential issue, can you verify the following?

Has car ever been successful charging while in Guatemala? How long has it been there? These would help verify that we're not looking at a grounding or polarization issue with the EVSE. Forum threads involving inverter-generators may be of some help here if the car hasn't charged off the Guatemala grid or is in a new location that has never worked.
2013 SL with Premium package - build date 5/13. 12 bar car with 45,000 miles and counting... Will be a challenge for the first bar to last to 50,000 miles!

2014 Volt - 46,000+ miles

powersurge
Posts: 719
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:24 am
Delivery Date: 06 Dec 2014
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:31 am

OH BOY! So the car in question lives in Guatemala?? I a Nissan Dealer in Guatemala has given up, then you're up the creek.

Since you are in a third world foreign country, I would make sure that the Electrical outlet has good connections, and a good ground... When I first got my Leaf I discovered that my garage did not have a ground, and the 120v brick gave an orange light of an error, and the car would not charge until it sensed a ground.

I would unload that car in a hurry... You don't bring high technology into the jungle, or it will end up abandoned and overgrown in the jungle in 30 years.

Joshuac0711
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:47 pm
Delivery Date: 01 Mar 2016
Leaf Number: 047700

Re: Leaf does not Charge

Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:06 am

Hi, the correct code is the B29C1 and the bulltin applies excatly but on page 8 of this bulletin they list the ECU parts number that are valid for this bulletin and my ECU part number its no on this list, I found the NTB2016-2006 and is almost the same but againg the part # is not listed, My ECU part is 292C0-4NR3B and on the list the most similar part is 292C0-4NR3A so the bulletin is not valid in theory. (Only the final letter changes), Do you know if this bulletin can be applied even if the ECU number is not listed? I thin that is for the model of my car....

The Car have 10 months in Guatemala and everithign works fine, My Company works with 12 electric units eNV-200 (nissan) since 2 years ago and works fine, I own another 2014 Leaf and works fine so the ground and voltage are guarantee, The Electrical requiremente is correct and guarantee,

Please tell me if I can run the instructions of the Bulletin on my leaf to try to solve the issue,

Return to “Problems / Troubleshooting”