arnis
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Replacement brake pad kits

Mon May 21, 2018 12:02 pm

Last year I ran out of front brake pads.
I payed excessively for the dealer to replace them. Front OEM front pads cost 4-6x more than normal price for pads
made by other pad manufacturers.
Now I'm running out of rear pads. Dealer asked 3-4x more than replacement pads. I'm tired of those prices.
And I ran out of warranty (mileage limitation). So no reason to pay too much.
They said correct part number is D4M604ND0A for rear pads.
I have Sunderland, UK Leaf made in June 2014.
I'm not sure what is going on, I think there are 3 different rear braking systems available on Leafs :?
Not sure what I have.

Does anybody have experience with aftermarket high quality brake pads. Brembo, Hella, Bosch?
What part number for my vehicle is the right one :?
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Mon May 21, 2018 12:13 pm

Have you tried Ebay for the OEM pads?
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Mon May 21, 2018 12:24 pm

I've used lots of aftermarket pads on other cars and I don't see why the Leaf would be any different as long as they fit. You basically 'get what you pay for' in brake pads and since they are a critical component and seldom require replacement I always get the best ones I can find. There are certainly different materials with different characteristics but if you match what the OEM pads are made of they should work fine.

That said, a friend of a friend works for a company designing brake pads and he said there is a certain 'black magic' about the formulation to get no-squeak pads, etc. but I've never had a problem with quality pads and rotors.

Unless you are driving your Leaf on a track you don't need racing pads and if you care about brake dust staining your wheels you may want to avoid organic pads but otherwise any decent brake pad should work.

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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Mon May 21, 2018 11:11 pm

The harder the material, the longer the pads last. However, what slows the car down is friction - kinetic energy -> heat. So, using a harder pad also means that your rotors will wear faster.

Because I'd rather do an easy pad replacement than a more labor intensive rotor replacement (or a rotor turning), I tend to buy cheaper pads that are made of softer materials.
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Tue May 22, 2018 1:01 am

alozzy wrote:Because I'd rather do an easy pad replacement than a more labor intensive rotor replacement (or a rotor turning), I tend to buy cheaper pads that are made of softer materials.
The rear rotors with the integrated drum parking brakes are hard to replace. But the front rotors are pretty simple. You just need to remove one more bolt and loosen another to swing the caliper bracket out of the way, and the rotor slides right off the studs. They're not too expensive either. RockAuto usually has decent prices.
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arnis
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Tue May 22, 2018 7:23 am

What kind of pads are used originally?
I know they have lots of copper in the friction material as it has lots of orange-speckles.
I also know they hardly make any dust. And that they don't last a long time.
And the rotors are hardly worn.
Therefore, original ones are soft as candy.
And I like the way they worked.
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Tue May 22, 2018 9:45 pm

arnis wrote:What kind of pads are used originally?
I know they have lots of copper in the friction material as it has lots of orange-speckles.
I also know they hardly make any dust. And that they don't last a long time.
And the rotors are hardly worn.
Therefore, original ones are soft as candy.
And I like the way they worked.


The 2011 and 2012 models from Japan that were delivered to the USA came with ceramic pads. As far as I know, the 2013 through at least 2015 Leafs manufactured in the USA also have ceramic pads. Ceramic pads create very little brake dust and last a long time, but they wear the rotors more than softer pads. My experience with ceramic pads on other vehicles is that the rotors wear to minimum thickness about the same time as the pads wear out. This makes brake service easy--just replace rotors, pads, and hardware.
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arnis
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Wed May 23, 2018 6:54 am

Therefore UK built Leaf does not have ceramic pads.
Part number is also different for UK built Leaf, some aftermarket pad makers mention that.

But still, absolutely confusing how many versions are there.
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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Wed May 23, 2018 7:19 am

With the 1-2 times you will have to replace brake pads on the Leaf, I seriously doubt that your WILL EVER wear out any brake components.

I have been using ceramic pads for the past 40 years, with good results. I have used wagner and a/c delco..

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Re: Replacement brake pad kits

Wed May 23, 2018 12:19 pm

OEM pads last 100 000km front and back ( 90Mm front, 110Mm rear). Battery lost 10% capacity.
Therefore likely rotors much be changed once. before car will be officially worn down.
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