SageBrush wrote:Right. And this business of the $5k price being "subsidized" is unsubstantiated.
They've claimed the were subventing: https://insideevs.com/nissan-says-leaf- ... ney-loser/
SageBrush wrote:I'm much more inclined to think that the current pricing has a hefty profit margin for Nissan since they can presumably buy cells for way under $200 a kWh just like everybody else, yet they want
Who sells these cells that are of the correct design and form factor that are qualified to work in a Leaf? There not only needs to be the cells, but also the modules they go in + the rest of the hardware that goes into the pack besides the casing + assembly and shipping costs + labor of removing the old pack and installing the new one.
SageBrush wrote:~ $350/kWh for replacement. $350 a kWh retail is what Tesla charges for their liquid cooled, advanced cell, range upgrade on the Model 3, and they are upfront in saying it is very profitable.
I'm hearing prices of $7K to $7.5K (viewtopic.php?f=27&t=25882&p=537280&hilit=facebook+%247K#p537280
) which sounds like it includes labor from a well-known Leaf tech in the PNW. $7500 w/labor would put it at $312.50 per kWh. I'm not saying the price is good though.
Hahaha about "profitable". Got it, Tesla's "profitable" even though they've never had an entire profitable year yet, have lost almost $6 billion in net income (including the 2 profitable quarters) while having racked up over $10 billion in debt.