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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:33 am

Thanks
I will try resistor.method

Does this affect anything.else on the generator like will the furnace still work with this? I assume yes

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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:01 am

It should not affect anything else. Just put the resistor in a plug (with no cord) so you can plug it in when you need it. I will try to add a photo later.
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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:39 pm

Great

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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:25 pm

What if I make a gfci plug for my generator I assume either will work then?

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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:42 pm

I made a plug adapter and it worked

I used 2 100k resistors

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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:53 am

binks wrote:I made a plug adapter and it worked

I used 2 100k resistors

There is some risk if you connect resistors to both line and neutral. Did you connect both resistors in parallel between neutral (white or silver terminal) and ground (green terminal)? If so, then it is fine and the net resistance is 50k ohms. I recommend that no resistor be connected to the line terminal (yellow or brass terminal) because that could cause an unsafe condition if the neutral to ground resistor comes loose (due to vibration) or fails.
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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:25 am

binks wrote:I made a plug adapter and it worked

I used 2 100k resistors


I would change the title of your post to avoid a bad outcome from using a non-inverter generator.

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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:43 pm

Yes, it should be charging from a non inverter generator. Charing (or charring) is not good when electricity is involved. By the way, most portable generators (inverter or conventional) have floating neutral so a neutral to ground reference (such as the plug adapter I described earlier) is needed.
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Re: Charing from a non inverter generator

Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:00 pm

GerryAZ wrote:
binks wrote:I made a plug adapter and it worked

I used 2 100k resistors

There is some risk if you connect resistors to both line and neutral. Did you connect both resistors in parallel between neutral (white or silver terminal) and ground (green terminal)? If so, then it is fine and the net resistance is 50k ohms. I recommend that no resistor be connected to the line terminal (yellow or brass terminal) because that could cause an unsafe condition if the neutral to ground resistor comes loose (due to vibration) or fails.


100k from each terminal to ground

Should I just do both together to 1 line?

They are not in parallel
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Re: Can you charge from a non inverter generator?

Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:37 pm

I strongly recommend a single connection from neutral (white or silver terminal) to ground (green terminal) with no connection to the line (brass or yellow) terminal. Either 50k ohms (two 100k resistors in parallel) or 100k ohms (one resistor) connected between neutral and ground is fine. If you use two resistors (one to line and one to neutral) you could have a safety issue if the resistor connected to neutral becomes disconnected or fails. In that case, the neutral terminal of the generator is elevated to 120 volts with respect to ground so it would be like plugging something into a receptacle that is wired backwards.
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