netsmith2012
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2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 6:46 pm

I am at home (fortunately).
The car was charged up overnight.
When I began to unplug the charge connector today (normal 220V) I discovered it was stuck.
I have a professionally installed 220V charging station at home.
I have have had a Leaf for 7 years using this charger without a problem. I'm on my first year of a 3rd lease.

I carefully tried all the solutions in the manual. It does make various clicking and beeping noises as I followed the directions to release it. It really feels like it is physically jammed.
The manual even includes a description of how to manually force it to disconnect. But the directions were not clear and my attempt to follow them did not work out well. There was a screw awkwardly placed that I was supposed to turn "clockwise" (which was odd) to release it.
But the screw would not budge in either direction and I was worried I would strip it.

It is Friday night so I will have to wait until Monday to call the dealership.
I'm concerned that they might have to dismantle my charging station to be able to tow it in.
I hope not.

Any suggestions are welcome.

cwerdna
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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 6:51 pm

Do you have the J1772 handle lock turned on in the menus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkGVeJH_hQg

On '11 to '17 Leafs, you could easily bypass the handle lock: https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-t ... eft-video/. I've done it to my Leaf and other '13 to '17 Leafs who rudely use the LOCK position at free public L2 charging. Their car is done yet the handle is being held hostage. I use 2 wooden coffee stirring sticks.

It's also possible the J1772 handle's tab has broken (I've encountered this before). In that case, you can use a screwdriver to pry up on the handle's tab to free it from the car.

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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 8:12 pm

The very fact that you used the same charging station for 7 years suggests that the handle is worn and something has broken.
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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 8:43 pm

It's also possible the connector and or inlet has melted. What brand is the EVSE?

The original Blink EVSEs w/crap defective Rema handles can do this if charging somewhere past 20ish or 24 amps: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=10749 (https://insideevs.com/news/318726/while ... -failures/). There was no issue at 15 or 16 amps.

IIRC, some Schneider units had the same issue: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 02#p484602.

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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 9:47 pm

cwerdna wrote:Do you have the J1772 handle lock turned on in the menus?.


No I don't. It is set to Unlock.

netsmith2012
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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 9:51 pm

cwerdna wrote:On '11 to '17 Leafs, you could easily bypass the handle lock: https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-t ... eft-video/. I've done it to my Leaf and other '13 to '17 Leafs who rudely use the LOCK position at free public L2 charging. Their car is done yet the handle is being held hostage. I use 2 wooden coffee stirring sticks..


My model is 2018. I do not see anything that I can actually pry. Do think 2018 may be different?

cwerdna wrote:It's also possible the J1772 handle's tab has broken (I've encountered this before). In that case, you can use a screwdriver to pry up on the handle's tab to free it from the car.


I don't see where I can pry anything on my 2018. It's all quite tight around the charge handle.

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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 9:53 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:The very fact that you used the same charging station for 7 years suggests that the handle is worn and something has broken.


That seems reasonable. I would love to get the handle out so I can drive it to my dealership.
I'm concerned that the charging unit will have to be taken apart or broken in order to tow it if I can't get the handle out.

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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 9:57 pm

cwerdna wrote:It's also possible the connector and or inlet has melted. What brand is the EVSE?

I do have the Blink Charging system.
I can't tell if anything melted but there is no indication that happened. Of course I can't see it because it is stuck.

netsmith2012
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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 10:10 pm

The Nissan catalog includes an attempt to explain how to manually unlock the handle when all else fails.

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But as I mentioned in my original note, I can't clearly identify the screw they are talking about.
And the one likely suspect is hard to get to with a screwdriver and did not budge.

I anyone has a 2018 and can discover something that perhaps I missed about this feature. I would be most grateful.

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Re: 2018 Leaf charging connector is stuck in the charge port

Fri May 10, 2019 10:16 pm

netsmith2012 wrote:
cwerdna wrote:On '11 to '17 Leafs, you could easily bypass the handle lock: https://insideevs.com/news/323954/how-t ... eft-video/. I've done it to my Leaf and other '13 to '17 Leafs who rudely use the LOCK position at free public L2 charging. Their car is done yet the handle is being held hostage. I use 2 wooden coffee stirring sticks..


My model is 2018. I do not see anything that I can actually pry. Do think 2018 may be different?

On the '13 to '17 Leafs which have a J1772 handle lock, you just need to push the white plastic thing over at the top which tries to lock the handle in place. There's nothing actually locking the white piece in place, just a motor that moves it between two positions.
netsmith2012 wrote:
cwerdna wrote:It's also possible the J1772 handle's tab has broken (I've encountered this before). In that case, you can use a screwdriver to pry up on the handle's tab to free it from the car.


I don't see where I can pry anything on my 2018. It's all quite tight around the charge handle.

Try prying up on the tang of the J1772 handle w/a small screwdriver. I'm talking about what would be the shiny part at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772 ... 855567.jpg. That's necessary if the mechanism inside the handle between the tang (or the tang itself) and button is broken.

If you have the white Blink unit pictured at https://insideevs.com/news/318726/while ... -failures/, those are the ones that may have the crap defective Rema handles that can melt.

It wouldn't heat up to a point to cause issues on 3.x kW OBC-equipped cars. All '18+ Leafs are 6.6 kW and that's enough to cause issues on above bad handles.
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