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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:45 pm

Hi

I am in Nevada…..well today the fourth bar went….now to 8 on my 2012 with 27k . My warranty expires in December, I am getting 60 miles on the clock after charging, but it quickly decreases to the 40’s after just a couple of miles of travel. Would you suggest to wait after the hot summer or have it done right away. I have adjusted to keeping my distances in check. Do you know if Nissan is replacing the packs with the 2017 models? And will waiting be beneficial to getting the newer packs? Do the newest packs have a name to ask for?
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Larry

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:16 pm

If you can wait, it will be beneficial, especially if you can avoid some time in summer heat with the replacement pack. There's a slim chance that Nissan will make 30 kWh packs available as replacements, considering that they aren't making 24 kWh packs any more (do they still offer the 24 kWh pack anywhere?).
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:42 pm

But hasn't Nissan repeatedly said that it's not possible for them to replace a 24kWh pack with a 30, because they operate on differently-colored electricity (or some equally plausible reason)?

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:54 pm

No, Nissan has simply said they don't ever plan on doing it, not how difficult it is. In reality, it should just take some ECU remapping to make it work. The bigger issue will probably be the QA testing required for them to be comfortable releasing it, which would have no immediate financial return (at least for the bean-counters).

It's too bad, as Nissan has really fallen short in doing a good job of taking care of early adopters having left so many with a product that is drastically underperforming their promises.
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:38 pm

Levenkay wrote:But hasn't Nissan repeatedly said that it's not possible for them to replace a 24kWh pack with a 30, because they operate on differently-colored electricity (or some equally plausible reason)?

They've given some reason, last I heard was because of homologation.

Some posts I made about it:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17168&p=476800&hilit=homologation#p476800
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17168&p=476802&hilit=homologation#p476802
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17168&p=476817&hilit=homologation#p476817

Someone else stated here or on a FB group I'm on that another problem is the discharge curves are different between the 24 and 30 kWh packs.
drees wrote:which would have no immediate financial return (at least for the bean-counters).

Yep.

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:33 am

Tpsfoto wrote:Hi

I am in Nevada…..well today the fourth bar went….now to 8 on my 2012 with 27k . My warranty expires in December, I am getting 60 miles on the clock after charging, but it quickly decreases to the 40’s after just a couple of miles of travel. Would you suggest to wait after the hot summer or have it done right away. I have adjusted to keeping my distances in check. Thanks,
Larry


I would definitely wait until there is about a week left for the warranty, especially in the heat of Nevada. Why get it replaced now if you can live with it? I kept going until I reached just a few miles under the 60K limit, and got through the summer here in Florida. I still had more time left, but no more miles. With more miles I'd be driving it as much as possible from now until the end of November.

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Tue May 09, 2017 5:57 pm

Amped wrote:Just noticed my Ahr went from 45.35 to 46.4 in about 3 weeks. We've had some days in the 50's and some days below 30. I did get LBW warning yesterday (below 30 degrees) after about 38 miles of driving 40 mph.I was on the last bar with 3 mi on the GOM when I made it back home. I've seen it go up and down over time. Mostly down. But, this is definitely the largest increase I'e seen. I've charging to 100% all winter.


In Feb, my Ahr was 45.35. It has been increasing with the rise in temps. Current temps are 55-60 and is quite cool for this time of year. As of today, my Ahr is 47.09. Weird that it keeps going up. Car hasn't had a QC since last fall. But, I have been charging to 100%. Not sure if it would go back down if I charged to 80%. I am now thinking I will not drop the 4th bar before 11/15 when the warranty is up.
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