Reddy
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:34 am

fbnella wrote:I should also note that I dropped to nine bars recently, within the last month.
Charge to 100%, discharge to LBW, VLBW, and turtle, accelerate and decelerate to the max, climb hills, quick charge, and generally enjoy driving as much as possible (but don't exceed 60,000 mi). You should lose that 4th bar next spring/summer and win the battery warranty lottery. Good luck.
Reddy
2011 SL; 10 bar, 48.82 AHr; 35,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
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atikovi
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:55 am

Valdemar wrote:$4-5k for a car with a shot battery is a bit on a wishful thinking end of things


Battery has an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty. If battery was "shot" wouldn't Nissan fix it under warranty?

fbnella
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:14 am

Thanks for the tips. When I spoke to a dealer here in town, they told me that the car would need to show a record of a yearly battery check for it to qualify for warranty coverage. Is this true? It was purchased used and I've no idea if that was done, or needed. The carfax shows it being serviced but isn't specific.

Thanks again, for any insight.



Reddy wrote:
fbnella wrote:I should also note that I dropped to nine bars recently, within the last month.
Charge to 100%, discharge to LBW, VLBW, and turtle, accelerate and decelerate to the max, climb hills, quick charge, and generally enjoy driving as much as possible (but don't exceed 60,000 mi). You should lose that 4th bar next spring/summer and win the battery warranty lottery. Good luck.

Valdemar
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:22 am

atikovi wrote:
Valdemar wrote:$4-5k for a car with a shot battery is a bit on a wishful thinking end of things


Battery has an 8 year 100,000 mile warranty. If battery was "shot" wouldn't Nissan fix it under warranty?


Not in this case, capacity loss warranty, which is what this case falls under, is for 5y/60000 miles only. The 8y/100k mile warranty covers manufacturing defects, for example if can't drive your car to due to a fault in the battery, or experience sudden range loss over a short time which could be due to a singly faulty module. In 99% of cases modules wear out evenly which is known as "gradual capacity loss" that is not covered by the manufacturing defects warranty.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
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Reddy
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:33 pm

fbnella wrote:Thanks for the tips. When I spoke to a dealer here in town, they told me that the car would need to show a record of a yearly battery check for it to qualify for warranty coverage. Is this true?
Not necessarily. There have been a few on this site who have had the battery replaced under warranty without all yearly checks. YMMV.
Reddy
2011 SL; 10 bar, 48.82 AHr; 35,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
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Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

Amped
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:57 pm

Purchased an off lease 2012 SL in Aug 16 with 10 bars and 32K miles. I had the battery check and 3227 update applied in September. Just lost 10th bar at 37K miles and LeafSpy reports at 47.53 Ahr. Build date is Jan 12. I believe the in service date was 11/2012 and sold and used in CT. Vehicle is currently in MA. Love the car. I went through 2 LeLink II devices. They both stopped working under 30 days of use. I know have a Viecar 4.0 OBII and it works great.
2012 SL. Clippercreek CS40-SG2.

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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:11 am

Amped wrote:Purchased an off lease 2012 SL in Aug 16 with 10 bars and 32K miles. I had the battery check and 3227 update applied in September. Just lost 10th bar at 37K miles and LeafSpy reports at 47.53 Ahr. Build date is Jan 12. I believe the in service date was 11/2012 and sold and used in CT. Vehicle is currently in MA. Love the car. I went through 2 LeLink II devices. They both stopped working under 30 days of use. I know have a Viecar 4.0 OBII and it works great.


Chances are you will miss out on the new battery bingo unless you start "work" on your pack soon. It took me 8 months and 11k miles to lose the 9th bar in SoCal that included the hottest months here, it'll likely take you longer in MA so you'll be cutting it close to 11/2017 when your capacity warranty expires.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
60.5AHr, SOH 94%, 105k miles
9kW Solar

Amped
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:49 pm

Valdemar wrote:
Amped wrote:Purchased an off lease 2012 SL in Aug 16 with 10 bars and 32K miles. I had the battery check and 3227 update applied in September. Just lost 10th bar at 37K miles and LeafSpy reports at 47.53 Ahr. Build date is Jan 12. I believe the in service date was 11/2012 and sold and used in CT. Vehicle is currently in MA. Love the car. I went through 2 LeLink II devices. They both stopped working under 30 days of use. I know have a Viecar 4.0 OBII and it works great.


Chances are you will miss out on the new battery bingo unless you start "work" on your pack soon. It took me 8 months and 11k miles to lose the 9th bar in SoCal that included the hottest months here, it'll likely take you longer in MA so you'll be cutting it close to 11/2017 when your capacity warranty expires.



If it happens, it would be a welcome bonus. I bought a 4 year old nice car for cheap and the range I'm getting is more than enough for my 30 mile round trip commute. I also have charging options near work. So, no worries if it doesn't happen.
2012 SL. Clippercreek CS40-SG2.

Valdemar
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:21 pm

Amped wrote:
Valdemar wrote:
Amped wrote:Purchased an off lease 2012 SL in Aug 16 with 10 bars and 32K miles. I had the battery check and 3227 update applied in September. Just lost 10th bar at 37K miles and LeafSpy reports at 47.53 Ahr. Build date is Jan 12. I believe the in service date was 11/2012 and sold and used in CT. Vehicle is currently in MA. Love the car. I went through 2 LeLink II devices. They both stopped working under 30 days of use. I know have a Viecar 4.0 OBII and it works great.


Chances are you will miss out on the new battery bingo unless you start "work" on your pack soon. It took me 8 months and 11k miles to lose the 9th bar in SoCal that included the hottest months here, it'll likely take you longer in MA so you'll be cutting it close to 11/2017 when your capacity warranty expires.



If it happens, it would be a welcome bonus. I bought a 4 year old nice car for cheap and the range I'm getting is more than enough for my 30 mile round trip commute. I also have charging options near work. So, no worries if it doesn't happen.


Don't take it lightly, it will be difficult to make that 30 miles in 2 years in the car during winter, if you plan to keep it that long. It is $6k for a new pack from Nissan and it doesn't really increase resale value all that much.
'11 SL, totaled
-1CB@33k/21mo, -2CB@53k/33mo, -3CB@68k/41mo, -4CB(41.5AHr)@79k/49mo, -5CB(38.85AHr)@87.5k/54mo
-0CB(66.14AHr)@87.5k/54mo (BBB)
60.5AHr, SOH 94%, 105k miles
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GetOffYourGas
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Re: Capacity Loss on 2011-2012 LEAFs

Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:11 am

Amped wrote:
Valdemar wrote:
Amped wrote:Purchased an off lease 2012 SL in Aug 16 with 10 bars and 32K miles. I had the battery check and 3227 update applied in September. Just lost 10th bar at 37K miles and LeafSpy reports at 47.53 Ahr. Build date is Jan 12. I believe the in service date was 11/2012 and sold and used in CT. Vehicle is currently in MA. Love the car. I went through 2 LeLink II devices. They both stopped working under 30 days of use. I know have a Viecar 4.0 OBII and it works great.


Chances are you will miss out on the new battery bingo unless you start "work" on your pack soon. It took me 8 months and 11k miles to lose the 9th bar in SoCal that included the hottest months here, it'll likely take you longer in MA so you'll be cutting it close to 11/2017 when your capacity warranty expires.



If it happens, it would be a welcome bonus. I bought a 4 year old nice car for cheap and the range I'm getting is more than enough for my 30 mile round trip commute. I also have charging options near work. So, no worries if it doesn't happen.


My 11-bar 2012 Leaf has a hard time driving 30 miles in the dead of winter with the heat blasting. Living in MA, I assume your winters are similar to Syracuse. I have to run the heat because I have kids in car seats (i.e. heated seats are useless to them). If you don't need heat and/or can preheat the car while plugged in, your commute will be much easier. How "near work" are those charging options? Can you walk to your work and leave the car plugged in?
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