garsh
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Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:03 am

I've noticed this problem on all newer cars - the headrests are too far forward! If I try to keep my seatback as upright as possible, then the headrests end up pushing my head forward. I've found a post that suggests that this was a safety change made to vehicles in 2009. I find it quite annoying and would like to fix it.

I've seen a few different suggestions, such as putting the headrest in backwards, swapping the front & rear headrests, and even using a vice or a hydraulic press to bend the headrest posts. Has anybody else found other solutions for the Leaf?
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:17 am

I removed the rears; no one typically rides in the back and I just couldn't see out the back window. Fronts don't seem so bad.
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:23 am

Headrests on all new cars are like that. Somebody figured out it's safer.

You can mitigate the problem by reclining the seat back slightly; that causes you to lean your head forward just enough so the headrest isn't hitting you.
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:51 am

We have found you can put two "garden kneelers" (flat foam cushions about 6" wide, 13" long, 1" think) side by side inside one of those ubiquitous canvas grocery bags (the unstructured kind - wimpy on the bottom). Then hang that around the headrest posts so it makes an extra "seatback". This will let you recline the seat a tiny bit so the headrest is less of an issue, and your back still feels more upright because the back of the seat has been brought forward. We will take them out come cold weather (we made it through last winter without them), but for now they help.

This was the issue we mentioned at the very first test-drive as being hideous, but it is how they do new cars.
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:06 am

Certainly in the UK (don't know about the USA) they aren't called headrests, not officially anyway. I know people call them headrests but when you learn to drive they are called head restraints. They aren't designed for resting your head on. Instead, they are a restraint in the event of a rear shunt helping to prevent whiplash.

I now people call them headreasts... I do too... but that is probably why they are not comfortable.

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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:22 am

paulchurchley wrote:Certainly in the UK (don't know about the USA) they aren't called headrests, not officially anyway. I know people call them headrests but when you learn to drive they are called head restraints. They aren't designed for resting your head on. Instead, they are a restraint in the event of a rear shunt helping to prevent whiplash.

I now people call them headreasts... I do too... but that is probably why they are not comfortable.


People on MNL would make lousy car salesman... after correcting the first customer who called a head restraint a headrest or an EVSE a charger, you'd be out on your butts :-)
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:00 pm

paulchurchley wrote:I know people call them headrests but when you learn to drive they are called head restraints.
I don't care what they're called. I just wish they were leaning back more so that my head does NOT rest against them when I'm in a normal sitting position!
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:19 pm

Likewise. I have no problem with the fronts and appreciate the improved protection in case I am rear-ended.

Stanton wrote:I removed the rears; no one typically rides in the back and I just couldn't see out the back window. Fronts don't seem so bad.
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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:47 pm

paulchurchley wrote:Certainly in the UK (don't know about the USA) they aren't called headrests, not officially anyway. I know people call them headrests but when you learn to drive they are called head restraints. They aren't designed for resting your head on. Instead, they are a restraint in the event of a rear shunt helping to prevent whiplash.

I now people call them headreasts... I do too... but that is probably why they are not comfortable.


Possibly, but there are times when you would like to rest your head, and also times when you'd just like to sit upright without something trying to push your head forward and down. I wonder how much safety this awkwardness is buying us?
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Headrests are uncomfortable

Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:28 pm

i was in a rear-ender that will cost 9k to fix.
i was not injured.
all the stuff on the right front seat went flying into the well in front of that seat.

my neck bothered me for a few hours in a very small way and i was never injured.
the head rest prolly helped allot.
i do feel that it impinges on a hat, when I wear one. but i usually just put it atop the passengerless seat head rest.
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