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30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:29 pm

Someone posted this on Facebook indicated that their dealer in Texas had installed a 30kwh battery in their 2011 Leaf. Think there's any truth to this or is the guy just trolling? I son't see how he got the GOM to get to 143 even with a 24kwh pack? Maybe its set to km instead of miles?

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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:42 pm

Also, what is the price on the 30Kwh pack..it seems, Nissan has not announced anything yet on 30Kwh battery pack replacement costs. I really hope that sense prevails among Nissan, and they offer the 30Kwh upgrade option to all the gen 1 Leafs..2011-2015. That would be the best way to give them all another 5-7 year lifespan..
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:53 pm

I just messaged the guy and he said that the dealer told him that it was a 30kwh pack (under warranty replacement) they put in his 2011, but not everyone is telling him that there's no way that this is the case. Hopefully we can get him to confirm with Leaf Spy that he does indeed have a 30kwh pack in his 2011, which would clearly mean that there is no backwards compatibility issue and Nissan is "choosing" to keep the 30kwh pack out of the hands of current owners. If this is the case, it is a total shame because its driving our resale down, taking cars off the road that have longer lives, and overall contributing to more environmental waste as a result.
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:53 pm

My guess is, they will announce compatibility and pricing of the 30Kwh pack soon at end of this year or early next year after launch of Gen 2 EV. I don't know how that helps as compared to announcing it now..but my guess is, it might be done to not hurt the resale of current lease returns....and/or to not hurt the sale of the 2016 30Kwh pack models.
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:12 pm

i hope it's legit. i usually keep cars until they fall apart.. My 1967 hasn't yet (totally). if all we have to do is put in a new battery once the range is too short that would extend the life of these puppies.

I hope, in a few years, 3rd party battery assemblers will create a solution for all the Nissan Leafs out there like the way they did for Honda Insights and Prius.

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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:13 pm

I really hope that they do so. If I knew that I could get a 30kwh pack for about $6K, I would seriously consider keeping my 2015 Leaf for a long while. I'm at about 5% capacity loss in my 2015 Leaf after 28K miles and 2 years. At this rate I should be able to get to 100K at least before my pack becomes degraded to the point where it impacts my life. If a 30kwh pack could last for 150K miles before reaching this same point, it would be well worth it for me to pony up the money for a replacement, but if I'm faced with spending $5500 for a 24kwh pack, not a chance!

I think that Nissan is hoping that they could keep the Leaf owners trading in for the Gen2, but I'd be willing to bet that most existing Leaf owners (like myself) already have money down on a model 3. Their best bet for keeping us is to make it worth our while to buy our Leafs at lease end and keep driving them.
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:15 pm

tkdbrusco wrote:Someone posted this on Facebook indicated that their dealer in Texas had installed a 30kwh battery in their 2011 Leaf.


Probably just another proof that everything's bigger in Texas, even 24kWh packs...
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:20 pm

Valdemar wrote:
tkdbrusco wrote:Someone posted this on Facebook indicated that their dealer in Texas had installed a 30kwh battery in their 2011 Leaf.


Probably just another proof that everything's bigger in Texas, even 24kWh packs...


They're bigger, until the summer temps kick in... then they're smaller.
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:28 pm

I really hope that they do so. If I knew that I could get a 30kwh pack for about $6K, I would seriously consider keeping my 2015 Leaf for a long while.


You see the problem..by giving a roadmap now, they will hurt the sale of their 2016 30Kwh models. I had a 2013 model as well that I would have purchased with the $7500 discount they were offering on its residual, had a 30Kwh road map been announced for it, because I too believe in keeping my cars for a long time & to me a 100 mile range car is sufficient...I care less about a 200 mile range car.

I am pretty certain, no announcement of backward compatibility of the 30Kwh pack is more of a business decision rather than a technical one..and it will happen when the business environment is right for it.
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Re: 30kwh installed in a 2011 car?

Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:47 pm

When I had my 'Lizard Pack' installed in 08/2014, my Range Indicator (GOM) stated 139 miles.
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