oleviking
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Location: Orlando, FL

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:57 pm

I would expand your search area, having a car trucked to your house is not that expensive, add in a round trip flight for inspection and purchase and you can then have the vehicle you want and not one you had to settle for. IMHO

oleviking
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Location: Orlando, FL

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:18 pm

Just looked at Autotrader and there are 14 - 2015 SV's within 500 miles of your location, worth a look.

BillHolz
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Leaf Number: 322345
Location: Norfolk, VA

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:27 am

I agree with oleviking about expanding your search. I went 150 miles away to get my almost new 2015SV back in May. I towed it home on a trailer but I could have driven it home with several stops along the way to charge. I opted for the trailer because my Leaf does not have a QC port. My daily commute is about like yours and I can do it with charging at one end or the other alone. During the dead of winter, if I get to the point where I have to charge at both ends, I will but so far it has not been a problem. I bought this car for the cheap commute that it provides me with so I would have to say that your similar commute should be great in a Leaf.

You have one big advantage over me, you have charging at work available. My charging near work is just over a mile away, which if I do end up needing to charge at both ends, I probably will not like the walk each way as much as I do now.
2015 SV no QC

eatsleafsandshoots
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Location: Denver, CO

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Sat May 27, 2017 8:50 am

I'm a big S evangelist especially if it means you get a 30kWh S over a used 24kWh model with a heat pump - use shore power preconditioning and rely on that nice big battery with nice long warranty and you'll be all set.

Plus, the 17S models have a lot of the features that the S trim used to lack.

alozzy
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Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Sat May 27, 2017 10:14 am

No one mentioned it yet - the S model has a 3.6kW onboard charger unless the car has the QC package (L3 CHADEMO). That means L2 charging will roughly be at 1/2 the speed of a 6.6kW capable Leaf.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
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NeilBlanchard
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Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Mon May 29, 2017 5:53 pm

schleppy wrote:I'm currently shopping for a used Leaf in MA. I have a 50 mile highway commute (25 each way). Most of that is on a 65 mph highway, pretty level. I have access to charing at work (and I have a level 2 at home).

I really wanted a 2015+ SV or SL model (in white or gray), but it's tough finding one. There are a TON of 2015 S models (some with quick charge) available, and cheap too. Would I be nuts getting the S model with the resistive heater instead of the heat pump?

Thanks all!


No, you should be fine. We live in metrowest, and have had a 2015 Leaf S for 2 1/2 years, and the absolute worst winter range has been about 60 miles. The heated seats are great, and so it the heated steering wheel. And the side mirrors are heated when you turn on the rear defroster.

You only need to use the heater when you have to run the defroster.

LeftieBiker
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Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Mon May 29, 2017 8:13 pm

No, you should be fine. We live in metrowest, and have had a 2015 Leaf S for 2 1/2 years, and the absolute worst winter range has been about 60 miles. The heated seats are great, and so it the heated steering wheel. And the side mirrors are heated when you turn on the rear defroster.

You only need to use the heater when you have to run the defroster.


I read this as you saying that you consider user of the cabin heater as optional, except to defrost. If that is true, then your range in Winter won't apply to another Leaf S driver who actually likes to stay warm. My 2013's range, when new, in Frigid weather, was about 50-55 miles, depending on speed and how much heat I used. That was likely with some degradation (2013 was a HOT Summer here), but not any more than a 2015 would be likely to have now. I wouldn't recommend an S to anyone in the Northeast who had to drive it more than 40 miles, because that high heater drain is always there, not just during the occasional frigid spell.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Dooglas
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Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Mon May 29, 2017 10:20 pm

alozzy wrote:No one mentioned it yet - the S model has a 3.6kW onboard charger unless the car has the QC package (L3 CHADEMO). That means L2 charging will roughly be at 1/2 the speed of a 6.6kW capable Leaf.

Yes, a buyer needs to be aware of this, but local dealers around here do not even stock the S without the QC package. It is special order only. When I was looking for a replacement LEAF a while ago every new S available in the area had the QC package with 6.6 kWh charger.
2013 Leaf SV - lease ended, 2016 Leaf S30

alozzy
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Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Mon May 29, 2017 10:30 pm

There seems to be a lot of regional variation on that then, as in the PNW, most of the S trim Leafs do not have the QC package.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
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powersurge
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Delivery Date: 06 Dec 2014
Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Would I be crazy to get a Leaf S trim level in the northeast?

Tue May 30, 2017 3:46 am

I own an S leaf. To You, I say---- Buy an S Leaf, save thousands, and you have the electric car you want without all of the extra crap. Yes, the higher trim may give you a better heater..... Let's say it is twice as efficient (overall). If you use the heater at a low level, any heater will work efficiently. For the life of me, why should I buy a higher level leaf so you can talk to it on the internet to preheat the car or check its level of charge?? The S car heats up in about 2 minutes anyway. Those are just toys to play with.

Don't listen to those that say DONT GET AN "S". I live on long island NY and own a 15 S. I drive 50 miles a day with it. I have driven it for 2 full winters and have no problems with it... It has front and rear heated seats, heated steering wheel. The "BAD" heater works fine and it does not use a lot of energy if you use it correctly. Use the heated seats and steering wheel, and set the heater to about 68-69 degrees with the fan on the lowest (1 or 2 bars) speed. That will make the car comfortably warm for your whole trip, and will only use about 10% more power. When the windows fog, you can hit the A/C button for a while. You start using a lot if you set the temperature and fan way up high...

PS - On Long Island, I have seen several red nice Leaf Ss for sale that I wish I could buy for about $10,000. They were 2015, with only 12-14K miles on them.. Check Long Island Craigslist.. OH YES!! Get the Quick charge package which gives you the faster 6.6 KWH charger...
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