binks
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Range in very cold weather

Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:24 pm

I am looking at buying a Leaf S or Leaf SV and I want to know how the range is when it's very cold. I live in Ottawa and currently it is -20C.

It can be -25C for a month in the winter so I need to know how this will affect the range.

Does buying the SV have any advantage?

silverone
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:39 pm

The range chart here might help.

viewtopic.php?t=4295

It would also help to know whether you're talking about a new model or a used 2013-2015 Leaf. The SV and SL models have a heat pump which is a power saver for heat, especially when temperatures are above -5C or so.

With an older 24kWh Leaf, I would say your top range with moderate heat will be in the 70km area, but consult the chart with your data to be sure. What is your required range - and do you know whether workplace charging is available or an option?
2013 SL with Premium package - build date 5/13. 12 bar car with 50,000 miles and counting... Trying to nurse 12 bars to 60,000 miles and beyond if possible!

2014 Volt - 48,000+ miles

binks
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:22 pm

I will be getting a brand new 2017

I dont think my work has charging out even outside plugs at all

webeleafowners
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:06 pm

Well, we haven't had our 2016 SV very long but we have done a few cold weather trips between Vernon and Kelowna and back....so about 120 Km. Each. One trip was at about minus minus 8 or so. I think our GOM was around 190 km range when we left and around 50 km range when we got back. We were dressed for the cold so didn't use the heat a lot but we did use the heated seats for a while and I used the heated steering wheel on and off. If you know the route it is about 50/50 highway/city and the highway is a 90kmh limit. I am by nature a very easy going driver and my cruise is always set about 1 KMH over the limit. The car started out in a reasonably warm (plus seven degrees) garage.

Hope that helps.
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2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:22 pm

The heatpump is a great advantage for cold to moderate Winter temps, when running the heat isn't vital but is important for comfort. When temps fall below about -5C, the advantage drops off, and when you get to whatever 14F is in Celsius, then it's virtually gone - when compared to the 2013+ air-heating resistance heater.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium and no QC, a 2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, and 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
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Reddy
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:16 am

Cut the rated range in half and you'll be close.
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 45.80 AHr; 43,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

powersurge
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:13 am

I would never buy a Leaf if the temps are -20.... why? The battery will be mostly used for heating....

LeftieBiker
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:15 am

powersurge wrote:I would never buy a Leaf if the temps are -20.... why? The battery will be mostly used for heating....


You can make that about 1/4-1/3 for heating the cabin, by using the seat and wheel heaters, and running the heat on the lowest setting, floor only, partial recirculate engaged.
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binks
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:23 am

Problem is I will be taking it to work and I have a 2 year old in the car. It has to be at least a bit warm.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Range in very cold weather

Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:04 am

The S and SV rear seat heaters were removed in 2015, IIRC. The SL might still have them after that - I don't know.
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