Jholder
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Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 1:47 am

Hey guys---picked up a MINT 2011 today in pearl with 36k miles at the local Ford dealer who didn't have any idea about the car. Long story, I walked in with $5k in my pocket and got it for that plus tax.

BUT--charged it tonight and it's only showing a 8 bar capacity! I assume I'm past Nissan warranty? Should I immediately try to return it or what do you think? It's going to be mainly a third vehicle for running around here in town, but I also don't want to make a dumb move. Part of me thinks for $5k use what it will do, but I also don't want to be foolish.

My screen shows 61 miles, full charge and 6 bars.

Thanks!!

cwerdna
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 2:16 am

To be clear, the capacity bars are the thinnest bars all the way on the right, including the red ones. http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/imag ... bars_s.jpg is a 3 bar loser. Do not look at the "fuel bars" to its left (which read 12 on a full charge, regardless of remaining capacity). Do not look at the temp gauge on the left side of the dash.

Can you update your location info via your user name in the upper right > User Control Panel > Profile tab? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

What are your daily driving needs in terms of miles? How much city vs. highway? Will you have the ability to charge at your work/destinations?

Where did this car reside before?

The capacity warranty (viewtopic.php?t=13192) which didn't exist when the '11 and '12 were on sale as new are for 5 years/60K miles, whichever comes first. Clock began ticking the (first) original in-service date.

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 2:21 am

Did you not look at the capacity bars before you bought it? If more than 8 were showing then it may have been reset. And yes, you need to be clear on which bars are which. Six temperature bars...?
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cwerdna
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 2:30 am

As for returning it, is there are written statement about the return policy on your contract? Is there some sort of mandate in your area that allows returns of used cars? You may be unable to return it.

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 4:38 am

The worst case scenario is you may have to, in the next few years, spend another $6k for a new pack, to get a nice 2011 with 80 miles of range.
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 6:45 am

Find out when the car was sold to the first owner by VIN
https://www.google.com/search?q=vin+che ... e&ie=UTF-8
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 6:56 am

In this example, the car is charged up to 8 bars and has 12 bars of capacity. The immediate battery charge does not change the capacity bars.

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Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
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Jholder
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 7:02 am

Hey guys – thanks for all the replies. To give some other information – the car was originally titled 8/8/2011, so I guess I am still outside the warranty. Yes – it was the outside far right lines that show me bars. The car was originally in Houston, Texas. I'm sure that really hurt it there with the heat. I live in Nashville, and around a town Square, so I will mainly use it around here. I have three other gas vehicles, so when it is a day with a lot of travel I will just use one of those.

Do you think it is even worth checking about warranty replacement? Or am I beating a dead horse? Oddly enough, I live in Rutherford County, which is home to one of the largest Nissan plants in the world and, of all things, the plant where they build the leaf battery.

I'm driving it right now as we speak in ECO and have gone 6 miles. Showing a charge of 51 miles.

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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 7:35 am

Nissan has a program for battery replacement out of warranty where they (often, but not guaranteed) split the cost with the owner depending on how far past the warranty. If you are willing to pay $2 - 3k for a replacement, it is worth pursuing.

IIRC, your model year lets you choose whether to charge up to 80% or 100% of maximum available capacity (in your case, I think 8 bars.) 80% is better if you don't need the extra range, but the choice should be available. Read the fine user manual for instructions. This probably explains why your charge overnight brought you up to 6 bars of charge: 80% of 8 bars capacity equals 6.4 bars of charge.
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Re: Uh oh! Bought an 11 today but only charging 6 bars--return?

Sun May 14, 2017 8:19 am

Is there an option for the OP to "finance" a replacement at $100.00 +/- a month?
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